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« on: June 28, 2010, 09:22:29 PM » |
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What are your favorite .308 loads? particularly with 175 SMK's or 178 AMAX?
brass primer powder projectiles etc.
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 05:29:26 AM » |
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175smk 45.0 varget(can vary by lot, looking for 2690ish in my 24") CCI BR2 Winchester Brass
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 09:58:23 AM » |
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I've got a ton of Federal brass that I'd like to use up.
Any comments on Fed brass? other than most prefer Win brass?
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 10:31:34 AM » |
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175smk 39.5gr Reloder 15 Federal 210m Hornady Match brass
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 12:05:13 PM » |
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I use the winchester primarily for case capacity and availability.
I'm confident that I could tune a Varget load that would shoot in my rifle using Federal brass.
45.0 of varget in a Rem case is too hot. Same for Lapua.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 09:03:46 PM » |
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I've got a ton of Federal brass that I'd like to use up.
Any comments on Fed brass? other than most prefer Win brass?
Be careful and work your loads up slowly with F-C brass. They will pop primers long before you reach max loads
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 09:58:12 PM » |
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44.5gr Varget 155 Amax 210M win Brass 44gr Varget 165gr spbt Hornady 210M Fed Brass 44gr Reloader 15 win cases WLR 165gr spbt 45gr Varget 175gr smk Win 210M 168gr Nos Varget 44.5 210M lapua M1A 168gr NOS 40.5gr H4895 LC brass WLR M1A 168gr NOS 41.5 Reloader 15 win cases WLR
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 10:23:09 PM » |
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How 'full' is a .308 case with 45gr of varget? or 42 gr for that matter?
Any other powder better with temp sensativity than varget? RL17 proll'y won't work for me
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 11:46:58 PM » |
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44.5 grains comes almost to the bottom of the neck rem brass & will crunch slightly as I seat 155/175, but it will settle & still hear loose powder in there, so I don't think it's fully compressed
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 07:16:53 AM » |
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How 'full' is a .308 case with 45gr of varget? or 42 gr for that matter?
45gr of Varget =107% and 42.04= 100% according to quick load
Any other powder better with temp sensativity than varget? RL17 proll'y won't work for me
Look at VV N-540
44.2gr Vihtavuori N540, Wolf Primer, Lapua brass, 175 SMK, 2.830 OAL, = 2730 FPS from my 18" barreled 308. FYI; this load will pop primers with FC brass but shows no pressure signs in the Lupua.
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 07:26:44 AM » |
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The new Hodgon's Manual page 115 list the 45gr of Varget as max 48,600 cup pressure using Win brass and 210M primers. As always work up your loads........
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 09:09:28 AM » |
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49 grns Varget, 110grn Hornady V-max or 44.5 grns Varget, 168 grn Hornady A-max. 20" Savage hvy barrel.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 10:44:19 AM » |
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Swift6Six and I have been experimenting with IMR 8208XBR and we've had some impressive results with it. I'll get details together and posted this evening. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 09:54:37 PM » |
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The Sheepdog Ammo 168 A Max's!! Adios, TG
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 09:03:04 PM » |
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Did a little chrono work yesterday with my new gas gun. Not so surprisingly, the .308 load I listed above shot well. 175smk, 45gr Varget, CCI BR2, Win Brass, 2.815 OAL, I could see the group developing and pulled a couple of fliers so I knuckled down and shot this 100yd group. Not too shabby off of a rolled up blanket!   The load shot so well that I decided to take it out to 1k. Two sighters in the same spot then 13 rounds on a 36" gong and a 20"gong. 39.75 MOA to get to 1K. Some 16" data, since it seems to be scarce online. All ten shot averages; Load listed above = 2498fps, For comparison, this shoots @ 2695fps in my 24" FN SPR A3G 150 Hornady fmj-bt, 45.5 Varget, LC brass = 2629fps 150 Hornady fmj-bt, 46 Varget, LC brass = 2680fps 150 Hornady fmj-bt, 46.5 Varget, LC brass = 2683fps 150 SP, Fed Power Shock Factory =2612fps These were shot @ 2900' alt, 80deg F, Don't use the Varget load in anything with less case capacity than Winny brass. Don't forget the standard reloading safety disclaimer. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2010, 10:48:41 PM » |
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What do you think about running CCI magnum primers in a .308? I'd like to keep it simple with components between .308, 30-06 and .300WM.
Also any thoughts on 208grain AMAX with Varget in a .308 w/ a 26inch tube?
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2010, 05:25:17 AM » |
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With the 208gr Amax you may want to look at RL-17 in win brass... Lots of information on Snipershide and long range hunting web sites.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2010, 05:26:11 AM » |
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RG,
What do you think about running CCI magnum primers in a .308? I'd like to keep it simple with components between .308, 30-06 and .300WM.
Also any thoughts on 208grain AMAX with Varget in a .308 w/ a 26inch tube?
I don't see why you couldn't use the magnum primers. Magnum primers tend to be hotter. The benchrest crowd tends to go with milder, more consistent primers. If you can work up an accurate, consistent load, I would go for it. I haven't tried the 208 AMAX. If the numbers work to the distance you want to shoot and you can find something accurate and consistent... 208gr sounds heavy for most .308's. The twist rate might be a killer once you get out a bit.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2010, 09:03:37 PM » |
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Did some reloading ladder work using Reloader-17 with 180 Speer btsp. Had real good results, very surprising over the course of testing...... Sub min group out of a custom built 308 22" barrel 03 action.....
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2010, 12:28:22 PM » |
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Anyone have any load data using 308 168gr Amax's with Ramshot Tac powder? I can't seem to find much info, Thanks in Advance!
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 11:56:22 PM » |
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178 amax lapua brass Fed 210m 46 gr 2000-mr 2600fps +-15
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2011, 11:29:04 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 02:24:37 AM » |
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45 gr. Varget, once fired rem/win brass, 168 gr. SMK BTHP, on CCI primers. Very sweet out of the Remington 700 SPS Varmint 26" barrel. Half MOA on a good day.
44.5 shot well, too, but 45 produced the most consistent group.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2011, 10:01:36 AM » |
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ive been using 168 smks and amax over 46gr of varget just of the lands, max load so work it up if you use it. dont have any targets to post but its groups about as well as i can shoot, which isnt as impressive as the targets posted here. my brother has shot this load in my rifle with great results
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2011, 11:13:39 PM » |
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Rem 700 SPS Tac AAC-SD 178 Amax Lapua brass varget cci200 Mag length 2.850 coal 2550fps 10 string average
I recently did a OCW test with some Berger 190 vlds but they didn't like being seated out to mag length. Might try some 208 amaxes if I can find some.
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