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« on: June 25, 2010, 07:04:53 AM »

 What defensive pistol round do you use and why....
 Glaser has been one of my favorite for years, like getting hit
with a shot shell at close quarters. Test results show the damage
with no over penetration does a job when hit in the chest.....
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 07:39:22 AM »

I use PMC Starfire...
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2010, 08:09:26 AM »

230gr Golden Sabre... because it feeds reliably, and I have liablity concerns.   Grin

I would like try some Hornady Critical Defense... but I'm too lazy to order any and nobody seems to carry them around here.

Another question, how often do people shoot/cycle their defensive pistol rounds.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 09:34:13 AM »

45ACP +P 200gn Gold Dots here  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 09:57:58 AM »

generally what ever i left in the gun
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 10:24:36 AM »

9mm 147gr Winchester Ranger for the Glock, .38 spl 135gr Gold Dots for the snub, .357 mag 125gr DPX for the 686.

I got the Ranger SXT stuff when I was working at a range and could score 50 round boxes cheaper then most 20 round boxes of other stuff.  The Gold Dots came from a friend who was a snub enthusiast, his recommendation for the short barrel.  The DPX was originally for a hunting area of California that had a lead ammo ban.

I really like Golden Saber (especially the bonded) and Gold Dots - I feel both perform as well as HST/SXT and are more readily available.

About twice a year I'll take a good long look at any ammo I've been carrying, paying special attention to bullet setback.  Anything that looks suspect will get loaded into a mag and get shot at the range.  I don't cycle through entire boxes on any set time schedule - I'm just not that rich.  

On the topic of defensive ammo, I'm going to make an update to the Glaser LCR thread with some pictures and video from a few years ago...

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 10:37:06 AM »

.45 ACP:
185gr Remington Golder Saber +P
They seemed to have the best expansion, velocity, and mass retention of all the tests I read.  They shoot great and feed great.

9mm:
I think 147gr Winchester Silvertip (been a long time since I bought them and loaded my mags up with them) and some Winchester 115 gr generic hollowpoints
I bought these for home defense, but then I started keeping my .45 in the house.  But I"m back to keeping the 9mm in the house so I should probably upgrade to some Golden Sabers

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 10:54:20 AM »

After reading about the new 45ACP Critical Defense ammo, I may have to look at replacing my Gold Dots?
I've always worried about over penetration issues with my 200gn +P's?

As soon as Impact gets some, I'll give them a go?

Looks interesting though, a 185 @ 1000 fps - MMmnnnnnn?
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 11:04:22 AM »

Yeah I've never been a fan of anything over 185gr for a pistol round because of over penetration and poor expansion. 
Joey, you should check out the Golden Sabers.  They clocked in at 980fps out of my 3.5" Bersa...
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 11:51:07 AM »

I carry 147 grain Subsonic federal ammunition in my G17 . This was some of the Navy Seal contract over-run stuff that was available for a very short time . I ran into a few case lots a couple years ago and have carried it ever since . I do not cycle out my old ammo on purpose but every once in a while I shoot some at the odd coyote or whistlepig just because its the only weapon handy at the time .
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 12:15:14 PM »

45ACP- HST 230gr. and Gold Dot 230gr.

9MM- HST 124gr.+P and Gold Dot 147gr.

 (HST in 9MM when available)
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 12:18:51 PM »

Hornady 200 grn, 1050fps, +P .45 acp.  Liked the ballistics testing results Hornady sent out and liked the accuracy and reliability when I shot it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 01:01:49 PM »

Hornady Critical Defense

90 gr .380 FTX

115 gr 9mm

I try to shoot the 380 every six months or so. The 9mm gets shot whenever I forget it's in that magazine instead of cheap stuff.. Undecided
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 01:32:21 PM »

Switched from 147gr Hornady TAP FPD to 115gr Hornady Critical Defense.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 05:26:02 PM »

9mm 147gr HST; anything else (in the woods) is heavy hardcast.
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2010, 12:36:49 AM »

I vote for 45 caliber 185 winchester silver tips. 

As was previously stated watch for setback if you rack em often. I have seen lots of 45 defensive ammo set back. I use a kenetic bullet puller then reseat to factory specs.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2010, 12:42:59 AM »

I vote for 45 caliber 185 winchester silver tips. 

As was previously stated watch for setback if you rack em often. I have seen lots of 45 defensive ammo set back. I use a kenetic bullet puller then reseat to factory specs.

Cool idea, never thought of that.  Does the cavity silver tips get peened over after they get racked in a bunch?
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2010, 02:37:55 AM »

115 gr. critical defense.
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2010, 10:37:39 AM »

16 rounds of 9mm gold dot...because they support the shooting sports.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2010, 10:52:22 AM »

13 rounds of gold dot in my Glock 23 and  Hornady .357mags in my sp101 Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 11:15:26 AM »

Old skool here, Federal Hydra-shok +p...thinking of switching to the critical defense.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 11:35:28 AM »

.45 ACP, 200 grain Hornady XTP +p  both the TAP and the regular line of ammo

.40 cal, 180 grain Remington Golden Saber only because i got about 140 rounds of it for free, but once that is gone i will get the XTP.
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 11:38:09 AM »

Cor-Bon DPX .45 ACP +P/185 grain because their environmentally friendly Wink

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 01:44:38 PM »

i use speer gold dots. only bought one box. i shot a few of them to get the 'feel' for them. nothing like watching dollar bills eject from your pistol.

not to go off topic but how often should one cycle out defensive rounds? one year?
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2010, 05:40:29 PM »

Only one person so far using the classic 230gr weight in their 45?  I'm surprised.  Why shoot the flying ashtray with light bullets?
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