Topic: .318 (8X57J) not JS Reloading data, Lead Free Bullets

[Mastur]

I'm new to reloading:  looking for reload Data* on the .318 190 grain (Lead) I have the RCBS dies and reloader , as well as a small supply of Bullets for my 1923 Merkel Drilling (Dbl 16Ga over 8X57J).
   The REAL CONUNDRUM is - I was hoping to take Pig on the Central California Coast-
2 Issues
 1) California Condor Country requires Lead Free Bullets- No one I have found casts** a Lead free .318 Bullet.
  2) Probably outside Boise Shooters area of expertise-- the three year drought has reduced the Pig Population significantly in San Benito County, for now.

* Preferably for IMR4350 powder as I have that for my back up gun a Tika T3 270WSM with Sako action- Federal makes the 130 gr TSX which I have.
 The 270WSM shoots better with 150 gr bullet, BUT 150 GR TSX warns about 10 revolutions or better. Mine is 9 or 9.5 I believe.

** Are 'Cast' & "Swedge" essentially the same thing?
Mark
 
(MASTUR)

[fj40mojo]

I'm new to reloading:  looking for reload Data* on the .318 190 grain (Lead) I have the RCBS dies and reloader , as well as a small supply of Bullets for my 1923 Merkel Drilling (Dbl 16Ga over 8X57J).
   The REAL CONUNDRUM is - I was hoping to take Pig on the Central California Coast-
2 Issues
 1) California Condor Country requires Lead Free Bullets- No one I have found casts** a Lead free .318 Bullet.
  2) Probably outside Boise Shooters area of expertise-- the three year drought has reduced the Pig Population significantly in San Benito County, for now.

* Preferably for IMR4350 powder as I have that for my back up gun a Tika T3 270WSM with Sako action- Federal makes the 130 gr TSX which I have.
 The 270WSM shoots better with 150 gr bullet, BUT 150 GR TSX warns about 10 revolutions or better. Mine is 9 or 9.5 I believe.

** Are 'Cast' & "Swedge" essentially the same thing?
Mark
 
(MASTUR)

Yes "cast and swedged" has more to do with the mfg process than material. Both are lead most commonly which precludes them from use in Komiefornia.

 http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/rifle/tsx-bullet/

Barnes makes lead free 8mm pills.

[Nomad]

Nosler has a lead free bullets here is some data. Good Luck

8x57 JS Mauser1802008mm-06180 Grain200 Grain8mm Rem Magnum180 Grain200 Grain325 WSM180 Grain200 Grain   
8x57 JS Mauser
180 gr. Ballistic Tip®
Ballistic Coefficient: .357
Sectional Density: .246
* Most Accurate Load Tested

Powder: Varget
Charge Weight (in grains)   Muzzle Velocity (fps)   Load Density
49.0      2669 fps   94%
47.0      2567 fps   90%
45.0*      2464 fps   86%

Powder: RL-15
Charge Weight (in grains)   Muzzle Velocity (fps)   Load Density
48.5      2667 fps   93%
46.5      2576 fps   89%
44.5*      2462 fps   85%

Powder: IMR4350
Charge Weight (in grains)   Muzzle Velocity (fps)   Load Density
52.0      2545 fps   105%
50.0      2494 fps   101%
48.0*      2403 fps   97%

[Mastur]

Thanks for the reload specs on IMR 4350 re the 8mm Mauser.

As for bullets (pills) Barnes are .323 (8X57JS), not the older 8X57J or JR .318 rounds.

As for loading, one source has advised charges are same for either variant .318 or .323. Bullets are less (as in NOT) interchangable --especially for my older barrel.
 
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[Precise]

If you're looking for lead free, this might help...

http://sinterfire.com/

[fj40mojo]

Could roll yer own.

http://www.corbins.com/

Best advice I can give you beyond that is to consider a rebarrel job.

[J Mack]

Best advice I can give you beyond that is to consider a rebarrel job.

Or stay out of the Central California Coast and live life in Idaho where it's OK to be an American and shoot your guns!

[fj40mojo]

Or stay out of the Central California Coast and live life in Idaho where it's OK to be an American and shoot your guns!

Well DUH!