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Offline berg

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2010, 08:53:22 AM »
Quote from: TrooperBrian on May 20, 2010, 01:13:40 AM
So I start with a plain Rem700SA. $700
Oh bolt handle! $60
Oh extended mag and support gear! $100
Then base and rings. $150
Then a Nightforce. $1700

Suppressor? Ok. $475
Oh I have to thread my barrel? $80
But the barrel sucks! Oh new barrel. $275
I have to get Robert to machine the barrel!? $$$$
Oh what? The barrel won't fit in the stock and only two stocks WILL? $700.

Suddenly I have upwards of $4500 into a .308 rifle with an effective range of 800 yards.

At what point does it become stupid to drop large amount of money into a .308?

Fuzzy math.  $700, too much for a base rifle, mine was $414 new (Rem BDL) call it $570 at most sporting goods stores. My (slightly used) Nightforce $900, H&S stock is about $300... So, $2910 Your scope will travel to your next rifle, so $2,010, wait, the suppressor will travel so $1850, base and rings also so $1,700 for the rifle. (you will pay a little more because you gunsmith will charge $$$) but you get the idea... This  is quite a bit for a rifle, but if you love it....what the heck.  I'm guessing this is a theoretical rifle?

Mine (real rifle)
Rifle   $414 Rem. BDL on close out, was in .243 now .308
Stock $200 for H&S stock (got a deal)
Barrel $300 for Bartlein target cut to heavy varmint profile
Scope $900 for used Nightforce
Silencer $cheep, bought used in good shape (old can , new guts) .
Gun work traded for IT work ..... match .308 chamber, receiver trued, bolt lugs trued, Sako extractor, bolt face trued, barrel cut to 22 inches and threaded ...

Because I couldn't afford a $4500 dollar custom rifle (but really, really wanted one)

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2012, 04:05:48 PM »
1. DTS SRS w/ 308 win and 338 Lapua, $6800
2. Hendsholdt 6-24x56 mil-dot scope     $3600
3. Barrett 30mm rings 15x40 moa         $225
4. Harris bipod w/ ARMS mount             $250
5. US Optics rial mount level                 $115
6. AAC QD Multi caliber supressor          $2200

 This rifle shoots 1/4 moa consistantly, its only money!
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2012, 04:12:20 PM »
I thought $10,000 was too much for any rifle until I shot the damn thing.  Now I'm trying to figure out how I can get and extra $10,000.    :P
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2012, 05:30:32 PM »
Just ordered a Savage 10fxp in .308 for under $400. Should be here by the 10th. :)
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2012, 01:06:32 AM »
Hi, I'm new here and will soon be new to the area.

On this subject, I have been interested in the SCAR 17s or similar. Considering the ranges listed here, the SCAR seems adequate to 600 meters.

Any opinions?
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2012, 09:29:49 AM »
If you want "precision" shooting with an semi-auto, then there is better out there than the SCAR17.  If you want something for 3-gun heavy, or "patrol shoot" type shooting, then it would work fine.

For precision shooting and depending on budget, you'd be better off with a Larue OBR, GA Precision GAP10 or a budget minded DPMS, Rock River or Armalite.

For 3-gun, unless you want to go heavy, the AR-15's can reach out to 600 yard/meters just fine, plus they'd be cheaper to shoot.
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2012, 12:59:49 PM »
Are you refering to the 7.62 Larue, or the 5.56?

I am just a paper hanger for now, and have not considered live competition. (I'm past my personal shooting prime) My wife was once invited to join the olympic shooting team, but familly exigencies got in the way. She might be a better bet for competition than myself.

With our pending move to Nampa, we were looking forward to some quality time at the ranges. (As soon as we find them). I have a feeling her interest in 1,000+ meter may blossom again.

I personally wouldn't mind a 50 BMG on some future Christmas list, finances permitting.   ::)
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2012, 03:42:21 PM »
I'm referring to the 7.62.  It's a lot more accurate than the SCAR 17.

There's lots of opportunity for long range shooting around here.  At Parma we have a 1 mile club/group of shooters in which we shoot out to 2000 yards.  We've been talking about 3000 yards, but haven't done it yet.
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2012, 04:05:57 PM »
I haven't priced them recently but an AI AWSM was about $6500, plus scope mount, plus magazines, plus a S&B 5-25 scope and it adds up to about $12k and cost $5 per shot.
A decent custom 308 rifle can be had for $3k to $4k plus mount and rings plus glass would put you in at $5k to $6k and $1 per shot (with match ammo).

The 308 sure does look more appealing (other than Savage came out with a $1500 rifle in 338LM).

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2012, 05:29:04 AM »
Pat what do you think about the 300Mag as a compromise between the 308 and 338?
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2012, 07:47:45 AM »
Quote from: birddog1989 on January 08, 2012, 05:29:04 AM
Pat what do you think about the 300Mag as a compromise between the 308 and 338?

Next time you're down I should have my new project done and we can take it out for a test drive.
Basically it's a long throat .300 WSM shooting the 208 Amax bullets @ 3100 + FPS.   
Although I’m building a complete rifle for this test It’s just a barrel and bolt change for our .260/.308 rifles. 
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2012, 02:21:58 PM »
man, 3100fps with the 208AMAX in a WSM is really fast!

I'm getting 3000fps with the 208AMAX out of my .300WM with a 26 inch barrel.



After shooting the 208AMAX last year, I'm looking for a .30cal. with a better BC.
the BC of the 208AMAX reall drops off under 2000fps

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2012, 05:01:57 PM »
Quote from: ida83704 on January 08, 2012, 02:21:58 PM
man, 3100fps with the 208AMAX in a WSM is really fast!

After shooting the 208AMAX last year, I'm looking for a .30cal. with a better BC.
the BC of the 208AMAX reall drops off under 2000fps

With a 28” slower twist barrel and longer throat my computer is telling me it’s possible without a compressed load but we’ll see after the rifle’s built. For now it’s just theory.   

I’m also looking at the new Berger 30 cal 230 gr Hybrid OTM Tactical bullets as a contingent plan.

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2012, 03:18:46 AM »
Are you worried about throat erosion?
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2012, 09:46:36 AM »
Quote from: birddog1989 on January 09, 2012, 03:18:46 AM
Are you worried about throat erosion?

Are kidding? It's jmack he has barrels growing on trees in his backyard  ;D
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2012, 10:04:00 AM »
Quote from: luvmy45 on January 09, 2012, 09:46:36 AM
Are kidding? It's jmack he has barrels growing on trees in his backyard  ;D
Quote from: birddog1989 on January 09, 2012, 03:18:46 AM
Are you worried about throat erosion?

Throat erosion will not be any more of an issue than on any other .300WSM.
When I spec the chamber reamer I went with .119” longer throat than SAMMI to push the bullet out to almost mag length minimizing the space occupied be the seated bullet and maximizing case capacity. I’ll still have .020” to chase the lands if needed but chances are good I would do a setback long before I push the bullet out .020”

Unfortunately the barrel trees have overgrown and chocked out all the money trees that I use to have in my back yard.   
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2012, 06:39:56 PM »
New barrels are relatively cheap when compared to the cost of the ammo required to 'wear' the barrel out..
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