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What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« on: May 20, 2010, 01:13:40 AM »
So I start with a plain Rem700SA. $700
Oh bolt handle! $60
Oh extended mag and support gear! $100
Then base and rings. $150
Then a Nightforce. $1700

Suppressor? Ok. $475
Oh I have to thread my barrel? $80
But the barrel sucks! Oh new barrel. $275
I have to get Robert to machine the barrel!? $$$$
Oh what? The barrel won't fit in the stock and only two stocks WILL? $700.

Suddenly I have upwards of $4500 into a .308 rifle with an effective range of 800 yards.

At what point does it become stupid to drop large amount of money into a .308?
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 01:27:23 AM »
1st you paid to much for your base action, you should have been able to buy a Rem 700SA ADL for right around $400 if you watch for the sales at Wallyworld. Things just seemed to get exponentially worse from there. Yes, you have far exceeded the point of "stupid" money. If you've got that kinda coin to drop on a single gun then there is a serious problem wiht the distribution of wealth in this country! ::) You could get a Savage already decked out that would likely out shoot your money pit right out of the box for under a grand. Just sayin.
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 06:31:15 AM »
TB, if it's any consolation, i've seen worse!
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 08:13:10 AM »
Now you know why a top end rifle starts around $4000 and goes up from there.

Guy at one of our shoot had a $7000 Surgeon rifle, and I'm not sure I want to know what TG has into his little long range plinker.  ;)

FJ right though, you could have just started with a Savage... no complaints with mine, and at a quarter of the cost, it will shoot better than I will on most days.  ;D

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 08:43:38 AM »
Oh yeah brother, see we agree on one thing, lol, SAVAGE. :eek:

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 09:00:52 AM »
R= remington's Rock

S= savage Sucks

Lmfao

Hell they both suck they are not 1911's ;D ;D ;D ;D :-X

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010, 09:04:03 AM »
Add my voice to those who say "SAVAGE" :D

I will also add this, though: are you HAPPY with the rifle?  If YOU are happy with it, who's to say you spent too much?  The one thing that I often lament with Savage is that accessories are not as readily accessible as they are for the Remington 700 actions.

Are you at a point where 800 yards is no longer a challenge?  With 175gr Match Kings or 155gr Lapua Scenars, there's no reason that rifle can't reach to 1000.

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010, 09:23:32 AM »
+1 for the Savage.   

I bought a Tikka .308 heavy varmint a year ago and have not been impressed.  I am giving one more load session, and if no luck, I am dumping it for a Savage.

As long as you are happy with the results, what does it matter how much you put into it?   (Assuming family and other obligations are honored...  IMO).   

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 09:42:36 AM »
My Savage + 175gr SMK w/41.5gr RE15 + SS 10x Scope = Hits at 1279 yards!!!!   ;D

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 09:43:23 AM »
My Savage + 175gr SMK w/41.5gr RE15 + SS 10x Scope = Hits at 1279 yards!!!!   ;D



But it still isn't a 1911 BK lol

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 09:48:39 AM »
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But it still isn't a 1911 BK lol

One has to know your limits... 1911 is for 500 yards and closer, the Savage is for 500 yards and farther. :evilgrin:

There are times though, if I'm in the mood, that I'll take the 1911 out to 600 or 700, you know just to give the MZB's a fightin chance.  :evilgrin:
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 09:50:44 AM »
One has to know your limits... 1911 is for 500 yards and closer, the Savage is for 500 yards and farther. :evilgrin:

There are times though, if I'm in the mood, that I'll take the 1911 out to 600 or 700, you know just to give the MZB's a fightin chance.  :evilgrin:

My god with all this talk about how good 1911's are I figured 1000 yards would be no problem with one ;D

BTW bk that is a nice looking savage :)

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 09:55:14 AM »
My Savage + 175gr SMK w/41.5gr RE15 + SS 10x Scope = Hits at 1279 yards!!!!   ;D

WOW....1279 yards on what size target?  1000 is my goal for mine, hopefully this year. :)

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 10:18:51 AM »
Thanks AGFEH, one of these days I might look as good as it does.  :D

The target was 9' tall, but only 17" wide, we call it our scud missile target... wind is a bitch at that range.

Here is the AAR report from the shoot, http://parmarng.org/MatchScores/LRTR-AAR-2010-04-17.pdf

I'll post it over in the Adventure section as well, I was just to lazy to try and get the formatting small enough for here, so I was waiting for it to post over on the Parma sight.

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 02:32:02 PM »
So I start with a plain Rem700SA. $700
Oh bolt handle! $60
Oh extended mag and support gear! $100
Then base and rings. $150
Then a Nightforce. $1700

Suppressor? Ok. $475
Oh I have to thread my barrel? $80
But the barrel sucks! Oh new barrel. $275
I have to get Robert to machine the barrel!? $$$$
Oh what? The barrel won't fit in the stock and only two stocks WILL? $700.

Suddenly I have upwards of $4500 into a .308 rifle with an effective range of 800 yards.

At what point does it become stupid to drop large amount of money into a .308?

hey, I think you forgot to add the $200 tax stamp for the can.......

I think you should subtract the $1700 for the scope and the $475 for the can since they are transferable to any rifle and last a long time.

Effective range is 800 yards maybe, but your max is at least 1200 yards unless you sawed the barrel off at something silly like 18 or 20 inches.


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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 03:31:55 PM »
Once you have a custom made rifle for long range shooting, it's very hard to look at anything off the shelf.  (Unless its a high end rifle like a AI-AW or Sako TRG)

From the hand lapped barrel, blue printed receiver, the smoothness of the action and many other custom features that go into your build.......you just can not get that from a Savage or off the shelf Remington.

I've hit man sized targets out to 1400 yards with the .308.  

At the Paddock shoot, we recovered bullets at the 726 yard target site.  The .308 bullets (175smks) were basically all in tact.  The .338 bullets (300smks) were mushroomed and fragmented.  I'll try to post a picture later on.
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 03:35:02 PM »


Effective range is 800 yards maybe, but your max is at least 1200 yards unless you sawed the barrel off at something silly like 18 or 20 inches.



With a quality barrel, 18" to 20" barrels can still get you there just fine.
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 03:45:26 PM »
Once you have a custom made rifle for long range shooting, it's very hard to look at anything off the shelf.  (Unless its a high end rifle like a AI-AW or Sako TRG)
And then they're just fun to look at @ your local gunshop - Just kidding Mr.EDGE  ;)

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2010, 03:55:10 PM »
Well...

Will it shoot like a $4.5K rifle ???
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2010, 05:15:04 PM »
a serious problem wiht the distribution of wealth in this country!

I'm sure you are just joking but that's the most "Progressive" statement I've ever read on this forum. I almost hit the "Report to Moderator" button for foul language.   ;D

BTW, You can never spend too much on a weapon or a car. You can't take it with you so if you like how it drives or shoots then money should never be a consideration.

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2010, 06:01:43 PM »
Time or money that you enjoy "wasting" is not really wasted.
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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2010, 06:13:27 PM »
Gesh, I didn't realize how much i spent on mine till i read this, and added my stuff up.

my main Rifle,  AR10(T)

AR10(T) $1700
Leupold Mark IV Scope 4-14.5 $900
Scope Mount $80
AWC ThunderTrap Suppressor $1000 + 200 tax stamp
Barrel Threading $150
PRS Stock $250
20) 20 rd mags $800
= $5080

not sure what a $4-5 k should shoot like, but this is what mine does at 800 yards fairly consistently using 180 gr bullets and 43 gr of 4064






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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2010, 08:46:17 PM »
I'm sure you are just joking but that's the most "Progressive" statement I've ever read on this forum. I almost hit the "Report to Moderator" button for foul language.   ;D

BTW, You can never spend too much on a weapon or a car. You can't take it with you so if you like how it drives or shoots then money should never be a consideration.

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2010, 08:53:44 PM »
shit and i thought 1700 in my fnar setup was bad but when i think 4500 i think 3 to 5 guns not 1

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Re: What is a stupidly large amount to spend on a rifle?
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2010, 09:13:43 PM »
I think I only have about 3400 into this one .



And about 2000 into this one .



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