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BO Location
« on: January 15, 2010, 04:31:39 AM »
 Location of your BO is it fortified will it hold off an attack, how many know where it is? Some
questions to ask yourself.........Now weapons rifle pistol shotgun and maybe a 22......As lets say
2012 comes staying home, going to family farm, and the story goes on......A cheap rifle say 200.00
a 308 can serve many different functions shoots past 800 with adjustable sights or scope....
 Shoots a 120gr cast bullet with 5gr of Unique.........Yet a chamber adapter for a 32 auto will take
 small game and sounds like a pellet rifle...A 30 Carbine will work as well.....
 How remote are you going to be children hurt themselves just being kids, are you setup to handle a broken leg....infections inside and outside, tooth aches, medical help needed.......Are you a day out to help or is there any around at all......
 Different questions to ask yourself........
 Are roads open? gangs of thieves are going to be out and about they have needs as well........
 Can you plant a garden water it and protect it, small animals, big animals and other hungry
humans..........
 As said many times history will repeat itself small groups can survive knowledge and willingness....
 
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Re: BO Location
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 04:05:36 PM »
Excellent statement. I have mulled over these thoughts myself many times. As far as medicine goes, I have been reading about native american uses of local plants. Charcoal will be of great use for poison ivy, and belly issues etc... In some ways going as low tech as you can might just save your life. The only thing i would add to this is an (s) on the end of the subject line. I think that having only one BO location is more dangerous than doing nothing. There are a few people who think thewy know where I would go. Better that way.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 12:17:23 PM »
I wish I had a cabin in the woods, but I don't.  My plan is to stay put.  If the problem is strictly local, I have family in other states.  If the problem is nationwide, my home supplies would go much farther here than what I could pack to another location.  While I feel completely comfortable in the woods, I think the sheer number of people would make living off the land all but impossible without land to grow food.  I think bags of rice and beans would keep me going longer here, and I can sit on my roof with a couple long guns if need be.  Just food for thought.

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Re: BO Location
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 12:22:34 PM »
I hope I don't sound like I'm knocking the possibility of Bugging Out entirely, I just think too many people would be clogged up on the roads and/or trying to hunt the same deer in the larger number of SHTF scenarios.  I think we should all have a BOB, but also plan on staying put and surviving in place with what we have in the pantry right now. 

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 04:38:55 PM »
Well said eric.
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Re: BO Location
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 04:52:28 PM »
Problem with BO locations as I see it is, as eric has pointed out, difficulties getting to said local but also what if someone beats you too it. If you've recognized it as a livable piece of ground someone else is bound to see the same qualities. If you are willing to defend that ground so will another. Just cuz you've got a title to a piece of ground doesn't mean that it is necessarily yours. Possession being 9/10 of the law and in a post apocalypse scenario that deed don't mean shit.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 06:43:58 PM »
So that means I can have your place in the apocalypse   ;D?
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 09:30:42 PM »
Problem with BO locations as I see it is, as eric has pointed out, difficulties getting to said local but also what if someone beats you too it. If you've recognized it as a livable piece of ground someone else is bound to see the same qualities. If you are willing to defend that ground so will another. Just cuz you've got a title to a piece of ground doesn't mean that it is necessarily yours. Possession being 9/10 of the law and in a post apocalypse scenario that deed don't mean shit.
I agree, which is why I have only looked at general areas, not particular plots of land. We can really only speculate and imagine what could happen in a total shtf scenario. If it means the life and death of my family or the life and death of strangers then it is going to be a bad day for one of the two.
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Re: BO Location
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 06:28:11 AM »
 Mainly looking at different choices that people can have..........
 They are your choices and as well you will live with them....
 Best idea more than one plan....

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Re: BO Location
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2010, 10:58:18 AM »
Indeed, more than one plan.  Staying put is only my main plan, I still can't help but have some ideas of shouting "wolverines" from the hills. 

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2010, 06:54:55 AM »
I think that if things are bad enough to force people who participate in a "preparedness"  forum got bugging out them there will be a LOT of desperate amateures looking for a safe place as well. If you dont own the land your BOL sits on (or have permission of whoever does) youre probably gonna find things will be more crowded than you think.

I plan to bug in for as long as possible - home is where the vast majority of my supplies are. If it comes to it we'll bug out to a relatives ranch - remote, defendable, power, water, and sustainable. I earn my family's place with my medical and tactical skills (gonna probably have to step up patrols against rustlers) and of course there are plenty of farm chores to go around.

Basically, I think that he you have some vague plan to take a backpack full of supplies to your secret spot in the hills to live off the land you need to seriously reconsider your plan

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Re: BO Location
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 09:05:13 PM »
Don't know if this is the right thread to say this, but as far as bugging in I do have a suggestion. If you have a clear wall in the garage it doesn't hurt to have pre cut plywood in the shape of your windows/doors. If you poke around some job sites (not as easy these days but its still out there) you can often find pieces to cover most of your smaller windows in the scrap piles. Just ask the guys on the site before you start to load. You can mark which one fits where, and have a box of screws ready too. When the worst hits you will not find plywood anywhere, and whether your staying or going the bad guys will pick the easier house when they can. You could even cut a few shooting crosses into the panels that will cover a window that opens. I always end up needing some ply anyhow, so I just replace what I use.
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Re: BO Location
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 10:55:31 AM »
A good thought indeed.  I have been doing that some with plywood and plastic.  I'm only half way there as I'm ADD as hell and have a ton of projects I'm doing.

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Re: BO Location
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2010, 01:00:17 PM »
Don't know if this is the right thread to say this, but as far as bugging in I do have a suggestion. If you have a clear wall in the garage it doesn't hurt to have pre cut plywood in the shape of your windows/doors. If you poke around some job sites (not as easy these days but its still out there) you can often find pieces to cover most of your smaller windows in the scrap piles. Just ask the guys on the site before you start to load. You can mark which one fits where, and have a box of screws ready too. When the worst hits you will not find plywood anywhere, and whether your staying or going the bad guys will pick the easier house when they can. You could even cut a few shooting crosses into the panels that will cover a window that opens. I always end up needing some ply anyhow, so I just replace what I use.
Just a thought.

Ain't nothing a Molotov cocktail can't handle, just adds more fuel to the fire.

If I were to build and design a BO home, it'd be underground, thick steel doors (Think nuclear missile silo) bullet proof glass windows.

or a Concrete home, with heavy duty fireproof tiles, or even use stuco if it were to be made on the cheap.

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2010, 04:20:07 PM »
One day I hope to have a home like that. 

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Re: BO Location
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2010, 05:13:00 PM »
Ain't nothing a Molotov cocktail can't handle, just adds more fuel to the fire.

If I were to build and design a BO home, it'd be underground, thick steel doors (Think nuclear missile silo) bullet proof glass windows.

or a Concrete home, with heavy duty fireproof tiles, or even use stuco if it were to be made on the cheap.


Well sure WTF, if I could build my perfect BO place it may also have escape tunnels, automated motion activated lasers, a mote with alligators, a fully stocked wet bar, theater with surround sound, and numerous out buildings for the multitude of women that I would be forced to repopulate society with.

But the reality is that my 4 bed 2 bath Meridian suburban compound is where I will probably be for a bit. I just think that during a short duration clusterF, natural disaster or whatnot, that given the choice the looters will pick easy glass over pulling lumber everytime. If I do have time before we take off, I'll do it on the off chance that I might have something to come back to. And if we are staying for a bit, boarded windows (with lookout holes) are a lot easier to guard against intruders than glass. If it comes down to Molotovs in Meridian, we shouldn't still be here anyway. I would have already loaded my BSU cheerleader and gymnastics teams into the stretch limo Hummer and headed to the aforementioned BO place.
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Re: BO Location
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2010, 05:55:44 PM »
I already have dibs on some cheerleaders, Good Luck!
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2010, 07:00:20 PM »
Honestly I have 8 picked out and marked on maps.  Each one is dependent on the scenario that may arise.  Then I have 3 back ups. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2010, 09:45:04 PM »
Honestly I have 8 picked out and marked on maps.  Each one is dependent on the scenario that may arise.  Then I have 3 back ups. 
with all these cheerleaders going around, mybe a shtf scnenario wouldn't be too bad.  ;) Oh your takiing about locations. ;D I think i would take the cheerleaders! :headbang: :sex:
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2010, 10:14:00 PM »
Cheerleaders would be a great for bartering!
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2010, 11:06:48 PM »
Cheerleaders would be a great for bartering!

why barter them away when they can make continual revenue?
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2010, 11:11:08 PM »
why barter them away when they can make continual revenue?

Good point!
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Re: BO Location
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2010, 11:42:41 AM »
with all these cheerleaders going around, mybe a shtf scnenario wouldn't be too bad.  ;) Oh your takiing about locations. ;D I think i would take the cheerleaders! :headbang: :sex:

I was talking about the cheerleaders.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2010, 11:15:54 PM »
I was talking about the cheerleaders.
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2010, 09:45:13 AM »
Well sure WTF, if I could build my perfect BO place it may also have escape tunnels, automated motion activated lasers, a mote with alligators, a fully stocked wet bar, theater with surround sound, and numerous out buildings for the multitude of women that I would be forced to repopulate society with.

But the reality is that my 4 bed 2 bath Meridian suburban compound is where I will probably be for a bit. I just think that during a short duration clusterF, natural disaster or whatnot, that given the choice the looters will pick easy glass over pulling lumber everytime. If I do have time before we take off, I'll do it on the off chance that I might have something to come back to. And if we are staying for a bit, boarded windows (with lookout holes) are a lot easier to guard against intruders than glass. If it comes down to Molotovs in Meridian, we shouldn't still be here anyway. I would have already loaded my BSU cheerleader and gymnastics teams into the stretch limo Hummer and headed to the aforementioned BO place.

Yup, I'd be staying put in my Meridian compound as well... at least for a few days to a few weeks depending on the situation. I've always thought that it would be good to have a small community of like minded individuals who are prepared also, and keep a few families together with different backgrounds and skills to support each other.  Everyone has to contribute to be part, but I've got 2500 acres of BO, which could be defended.
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