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« on: December 20, 2009, 07:07:05 AM »

 Been thinking of start to get things ready to shoot some sage rats this spring....
 Hope to do some 223 and 22 LR....
 What do you use on them........
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 09:25:48 AM »

.22 lr,17 m2,17 hmr,22 mag,.223,.308-12 ga.oh yea
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 10:08:47 AM »

10/22, Ruger MkIII, savage predator .223, RRA .223, Ruger varmint .243, couple shotguns.

i have started prepping brass and getting stuff together for spring... i cant wait.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 10:23:22 AM »

.22, .223, 9mm for when they get in too close, trip mines out to 100 meters, pungee pits around my position in case they get that close, and cyanide pills in case they take me.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 10:38:30 AM »

We normally use .22’ for most of our rat killing but I’m thinking of using the .223 for some long distance killing this year.
I thought about this last year but I didn’t have a brass catcher or a convenient way to attach a commercial unit to my rig and the only thing that suck balls worst than brass prep is picking brass out of the weeds.
Thanks for the reminder I need to get off my lazy ass and get out to the shop and get making my new super sweet brass catcher
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2009, 01:51:11 PM »

Usually an accurized 10/22 for shots out to 100 yards or so. Ruger .22 auto pistols with red dots for walking around potting them offhand. 17 HMR for shots out to 150 to 200 yards works well. Anything past that I like either my .17 Remington or a .223, but just as soon take a rifle in .204 Ruger.

I have to admit that a whistlepig taken at 50 yards with a handgun is much more gratifying than one taken at 250 yards with a .223 is. I like the challenge of hitting them with a pistol.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2009, 04:24:22 PM »

I have to admit that a whistlepig taken at 50 yards with a handgun is much more gratifying than one taken at 250 yards with a .223 is. I like the challenge of hitting them with a pistol.

.223 at all ranges with increasing satisfaction with decreasing ranges

points accrue by yardage.  taken from POI to where the largest piece lands

extra bonus if head separates from tail
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2009, 06:51:48 PM »

.22, .223, and the big daddy 12 gauge.  Just something fun about pulling the trigger, huge dust cloud, then spending an hour looking for parts!!
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2009, 07:09:21 PM »

Oh i do believe a whistle pig shoot would be a blast. Anyone anyone?


I thought about this last year but I didn’t have a brass catcher or a convenient way to attach a commercial unit to my rig and the only thing that suck balls worst than brass prep is picking brass out of the weeds.




Or you just do what I do and set up a lawn chair in the bed of your truck and the bed catches most of the shells. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 08:18:36 PM »

tricked out 10 22 most of the time 9mm 45s when i am bored  308 30 06 and 762x54r when thier running good and it is cool to nail one with a 375h&h
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 08:49:48 PM »

Oh i do believe a whistle pig shoot would be a blast. Anyone anyone?

Or you just do what I do and set up a lawn chair in the bed of your truck and the bed catches most of the shells. 

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2009, 09:19:30 PM »

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Hey, that's a bolt gun. You don't need no stinkin brass catcher! There is something  beautiful about the thought of shooting whistle pigs with projectiles that outweigh them by 2. Spectacular!
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2009, 10:28:19 PM »

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That will do Jmack.
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2009, 10:50:40 PM »

Jmack, cool rig... but tell me how many times have you had to replace the windows in your rig ??
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2009, 04:31:11 AM »

 Jmack like the looks of your shooting table must be great for really angry sagerats.....
or digging them a new hole......... beer
 Badger watch gunner needed! or just fun too shoot now and them...... beer
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2009, 10:01:15 AM »

Help me out...

Are sage rats and whistle pigs the same thing or?
Either way...I'm down to shoot both!
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2009, 10:16:45 AM »

Help me out...

Are sage rats and whistle pigs the same thing or?
Either way...I'm down to shoot both!

Same thing.  We've got several varieties around and they all seem to enjoy being shot.
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2009, 10:19:39 AM »

Same thing.  We've got several varieties around and they all seem to enjoy being shot.

...and don't forget cannibalism. They all seem to enjoy a snack with or of their buddies so use your centerfires and spread the wealth.
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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2009, 10:43:10 AM »

...and don't forget cannibalism. They all seem to enjoy a snack with or of their buddies so use your centerfires and spread the wealth.

My favorite technique is using their own natural desire to eat one another... well that and a 10/22.

shoot one and then another comes out to eat him and then shoot him and if you have patenice and are close enough wait till there are 3-4 out snacking on each other and hit them all with the shotgun, it makes for a fun day. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2009, 11:30:13 AM »

So anyone want to plan a whistle pig safari?
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2009, 11:37:22 AM »

So anyone want to plan a whistle pig safari?

In light of recent weather planning would be all that could be done. Sad  Nothing to do at the moment but wait around for all this white crap to go away and the desert to dry out enough that you don't sink to your eyebrows in muck the minute you get off a main road, or go kill coyotes.
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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2009, 07:14:07 AM »

 e11, have never hunted sage rats in you area............but in the past some in our area seem to have
moved on or who knows what.......Would like to hunt with say two or three BS people this spring
in the area north west of Boise, have seen them there...........
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2010, 11:29:46 AM »

I love to shoot them with a .221 fireball or .220 swift.  The swift really makes them dissapear. 

Get ready guys, around my stomping grounds the earliest I have seen them out is Jan. 18th.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 12:32:47 PM »

I love to shoot them with a .221 fireball or .220 swift.  The swift really makes them dissapear. 


Now you're talking! I have shot them with my Swift before and thought that I had missed because it was blown into such small pieces. I soon realized that I had WAY too much gun for those tiny squirrels. Sure fun to watch them explode.

But nowadays I too love shooting them with the little .221 Furball. I love it so much that is where I got my screen name from. Next June it will be going with me on my annual prairie dog shoot. That is, if I don't wear it out shooting whistlepigs first!
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2010, 06:39:16 PM »

They are already out?
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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 06:48:27 AM »

They are already out?

I sure hope not too many people are shooting them this early. I try to refrain from going any earlier than April to make sure that the some of the babies have been born so we can have some future shooting stock.
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2010, 08:13:57 AM »

I sure hope not too many people are shooting them this early. I try to refrain from going any earlier than April to make sure that the some of the babies have been born so we can have some future shooting stock.

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2010, 10:17:37 AM »

 +1 save some for the future..........
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 10:41:59 AM »

OK I will wait for awhile,Just had a itchy trigger finger 
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 06:22:44 PM »

.22 LR or for those out there aways or not .22-250 does the trick nicely.
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2010, 06:23:49 AM »

 Fun shooting no matter what you are using.......Keep the posts on what they are doing looking forward
to maybe getting some this year....
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2010, 09:12:27 PM »

The .223 is alway fun for squeeks, but I still love my ol' 22 year old Marlin, iron sights, tube fed .22 with 40 gr solids. You can shoot all day with breaking the bank, light to carry, if you really get into them it doesnt tear up my shoulder. I think its more fun to gauge dropping in the long shots too. It doesnt vaporize them, but you leave the carcass for their buddys to gnaw on. I would like to try the Barnes varmint grenades though, if you havent seen them check out the videos. Just like they swallowed an M-80. I've popped plenty of close ones with with wadcutter .40's, and it damn near turns em inside out. Its fun to get them that way, but I find it ruins the backstrap and makes it almost impossible to salvage any of the rib meat.

I do have a couple of requests though. I know its already been said and I'm probably preaching to the choir, but here they are.
As mentioned before, please dont shoot too early, let them have their babies, and switch hills so you dont wipe out a colony. Also, two of my favorite spots are now posted and blocked off limits to vehicles because too many A-holes went in in the mud and tore up the trails and the hillsides. If your cutting deep tracks in a trail back out and wait till it dries a little so we can all use the road later.

Sorry to bitch and moan. See ya in the hills.
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2010, 07:53:31 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2010, 08:17:05 AM »

 The challenge awaits us as the weather warms and the country dries out...........
 Shoot first and fast in the near future......
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2010, 12:42:09 PM »

Rise!  LOL...  I love it!
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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2010, 04:12:07 PM »

I run my 24" AR, my Rem 597 .22LR, and my 10mm pistol with 155gr laserbeams.
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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2010, 12:14:26 AM »

I sure hope not too many people are shooting them this early. I try to refrain from going any earlier than April to make sure that the some of the babies have been born so we can have some future shooting stock.

This is good advice. We want to make sure there are enough targets around for future practice.
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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2010, 11:25:04 AM »

I was at the range on Monday, and the little critters were all over the place. Took a couple of pot shots at them from 500m, but he was moving before the bullet got there.

That whole time of flight thing at that range kinda sucks.

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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2010, 05:50:54 PM »

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That whole time of flight thing at that range kinda sucks.
Yup.  Hard to lead when they aren't moving to begin with!  Grin
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2010, 12:56:17 PM »

I'll never forget the first time a co-worker invited me out whistlepig hunting.  Not being from the area, I figured they were like prairie dogs and that we'd be shooting from long range.  Because of this, I brought my CZ-527 in .223 with a 6-24x50 Sightron mounted on it.  It was embarassing (to say the least) when the one I had a shot at showed up at about 15 yards and I missed   Roll Eyes

I did get my revenge a few months later when some showed up mid-afternoon out around Blacks Creek, though.  Wink
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2010, 08:42:59 PM »

This little guy made the mistake of popping up about 6 yards from us while we were trying out some 00 buck through the Mossberg 500. Took his head clean off, never knew what hit him.
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 09:02:15 PM »

I gotta get my scope mounted on the 223 AI and use the sighter rounds to break it in . The good news is that I have a couple 100 rounds of .223 loaded up with 50 grain V-Max's so I can kill whistle-pigs while fire forming brass !
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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2010, 12:14:43 AM »

I gotta get my scope mounted on the 223 AI and use the sighter rounds to break it in . The good news is that I have a couple 100 rounds of .223 loaded up with 50 grain V-Max's so I can kill whistle-pigs while fire forming brass !

I'd like to be there for that!
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« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2010, 10:40:49 AM »

I gotta get my scope mounted on the 223 AI and use the sighter rounds to break it in . The good news is that I have a couple 100 rounds of .223 loaded up with 50 grain V-Max's so I can kill whistle-pigs while fire forming brass !

lemme know if you'd like some help with that.  Grin
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« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2010, 08:07:21 AM »

 Dont know the area northwest of Caldwell to shoot some varmints at, could use your help
in finding a area have tried to get there the past few years from the Magic Valley......Nomad......
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« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2010, 11:12:21 AM »

My favorite spot is north of Parma.  Take highway 95 north from Parma then east on Pearl Road.  Pass the turn off for the Parma Range and keep going.  The road turns to dirt and there are multiple side roads and trails through the desert.  Just pick one and have fun.  The main road (Pearl) actually continues through the desert and comes out by exit 17 on I84.  I'm headed out there Tuesday afternoon if anybody wants to come along.
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2010, 04:06:44 PM »

My favorite spot is north of Parma.  Take highway 95 north from Parma then east on Pearl Road.  Pass the turn off for the Parma Range and keep going.  The road turns to dirt and there are multiple side roads and trails through the desert.  Just pick one and have fun.  The main road (Pearl) actually continues through the desert and comes out by exit 17 on I84.  I'm headed out there Tuesday afternoon if anybody wants to come along.

Pick me! Linda gonna be home to watch the kids?
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2010, 04:24:35 PM »

My favorite spot is north of Parma.  Take highway 95 north from Parma then east on Pearl Road.  Pass the turn off for the Parma Range and keep going.  The road turns to dirt and there are multiple side roads and trails through the desert.  Just pick one and have fun.  The main road (Pearl) actually continues through the desert and comes out by exit 17 on I84.  I'm headed out there Tuesday afternoon if anybody wants to come along.

Thats where I used to shoot them until everyone else figured out it was a good spot as well . If your gonna go out that way mid-week offers less crowding and theres tons of dirt roads peeling off in every direction across the desert .
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2010, 05:57:51 PM »

Whats the best place to go close to Boise?

Moved from KS where prairie dogs were the special o' the day
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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2010, 06:02:40 PM »

Whats the best place to go close to Boise?

Moved from KS where prairie dogs were the special o' the day

South of Boise out Pleasant Valley Rd towards the tank range. Be prepared to see lots of folks both shooting and riding dirt bikes.
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« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2010, 06:10:56 PM »

South of Boise out Pleasant Valley Rd towards the tank range. Be prepared to see lots of folks both shooting and riding dirt bikes.

Yeah, it's getting a lot busier out there, dammit.  More people leaving their crap behind, too.
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« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2010, 09:29:37 PM »

Yeah, it's getting a lot busier out there, dammit.  More people leaving their crap behind, too.

I always pick up my trash and then some. Try to leave it better than you found it!
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« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2010, 11:40:18 PM »

I always pick up my trash and then some. Try to leave it better than you found it!

Me, too.  Unfortunately, we seem to be in the minority.
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« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2010, 09:02:17 PM »

Sooo....went out piggin again this afternoon and came home with a story that I gotta share. I was using my Ruger 77/22 to good effect and was retrieving my kills and piling them up near my truck to keep a tally of the damage. Now the ground squirrel's propensity towards cannibalism is legendary but I had no idea how far they would go until today. On one trip out to retrieve a kill I found the little fellow partially eviscerated. It appeared he had crawled a foot or two after being shot and had strung his innards out over several inches. I picked him up by the tail and started walking back to the truck when I discovered that he had not expired. He was gathering up his guts with his fore paws and munching on them. I dropped him in disgust and finished him with my pistol while he attempted to consume his own viscera. Ick! 
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« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2010, 10:32:23 PM »

ewwww!   Lips Sealed
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« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2010, 08:37:45 AM »

miniature zombie hoards....runnnnnnnnn, and go get more ammo and shoot them, might have to make heads shots.  Grin
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