Topic: Anyone using moly?

[Jeff]

I'm pretty sure I want to start using moly coated bullets.  Anyone have issues with moly and want to talk me out of it?  Anyone applying it themselves?

[Spiff]

What are you after? More velocity?

[Jeff]

More velocity and less cleaning.  Longer barrel life would be nice too.

[egress81]

what are the beniftits of useing moly ? i have heard conflicting things about it.

[Jeff]

Here's a great article about it:  http://www.davidtubb.com/tcom_images/articles/mca.pdf

Personally, it seems to me that if David Tubb uses moly and thinks it's better it can't help but improve things for me.  The only downside I could come up with was the possibility of rusting a barrel.  That has pretty much been proven not to happen if you simply run a patch with Kroil on it through the barrel.  Varmint Al did some tests and you can find them on his site.

So, I'm planning on shooting up my existing lot of bullets and switching over.  I decided the extra cost of buying the moly coated bullets was preferable to moly coating my own.

I just bought a box of .45 230gr lead bullets from Cliff's.  Anyone want to buy them from me?  I'd like to get some MasterBlaster ot Precision bullets for my .45 loads.

[pv74]

Don't waste your money buying molly coating bullets...coat your own.
I have some molly that you could have if you really want to try it...
Put the bullets in a plastic jar in your trumbler with a teaspoon of molly powder...come back in a half hour or so...you got molly bullets.

Truthfully, don't waste your time...get a real copper solvent.
Playing with molly bullets is a real mess with very little benefits....don't bother.
The first few rounds of molly bullets will change your point of impact, so you should always leave your gun dirty before a match...that's what I did when I shot high power.

Molly will NOT inscrease accuracy...accuracy will probrably stay the same. The only benefit is that the bbl may be a little easier to clean. However, if you have a decent bbl, an excellent copper solvent like Montanna Extreme 50 BMG, the propper patches, and a decent jag, then you will have no problems cleaning at all.

[Jeff]

Thanks for the info.  The cost of moly coated bullets is pretty cheap (about 3 cents each) but I do have several thousand bullets that I'd like to moly coat (if my tests prove it out).  I can get 6 ounces of moly for $14.  I may try doing it myself just because I have so many bullets on the shelf.  I do want to shoot moly coated lead out of my pistols.  I'm not sure if I want to do those myself.

Well, I'm not sure the trouble will out weigh the benefits.  I believe that my bolt rifle is fouling pretty fast and causing quite a drop in accuracy.  Using moly should increase the ratio of shooting to cleaning.  That's a big win IMO.

I agree that you need to leave the barrel dirty before a match.  What I've heard is that you can run a patch with Kroil through it and it will be protected and still shoot straight.

According to David Tubb accuracy is improved.  Whether that's true or not I don't know.  However, better accuracy was not on my list of reasons to use moly.

[AR10T]

I have been using moly-coated bullets in my rifles (223 & 308) for about 6 years now and I am convinced that they are worth the money and effort....

I don't moly my own bullets I buy Sierra or Hornady.  The Sierras have a nicer finish, but I have found the Hornadys to be more accurate, at least in my rifles.  I believe that Tubbs does the moly coating for Sierra so some may say he has a vested interest in promoting the product, however, the man has an outstanding reputation in the shooting world and I don't believe that he would risk it if the moly bullets didn't perform.

As to the actual moly coating, I recommend that you don't just start shooting molys, but clean your barrel right down to bare metal, I mean REALLY clean, then degrease with acetone.
Then coat the barrel with a moly spray, I use MS. Molly, as recommended by Chuck Taylor, another shooter whose recommendations I have found to be sound.

I have not found that moly will make your barrel MORE accurate, especially if you already have a quality barrel, however, neither will it make your rifle shoot any worse than with naked bullets!  And cleaning the barrel, if you even want to bother, is vastly easier. Many shooters have found that, even with custom barrels, their accuracy will start to fall off after a limited number of rounds, moly will still be giving you its best after HUNDREDS of rounds fired!

If your barrel is properly cleaned and prepped, the moly will adhere to every portion of the barrel and since moly is non hydroscopic NO water will be able to penetrate it...don't let anyone tell you otherwise...it's not chemically possible.

I have also found that the first shot from a cold dirty barrel, who really has a CLEAN barrel these days, is actually closer to the group than with the naked bullets...again I am only shooting Armalites, with their SS match barrels, which I think are,quality wise, somewhere between a rack grade rifle and one with a custom barrel.

I know that some will say that if moly was so great why don't the bench rest shooters use it...good point, but they are shooting from a bench and have lots of time to clean their barrels between stages, moly gives them no real value, same for other shooters that are shooting low round count matches, however, if you are shooting a tactical/sniper or an IPSC type rifle match and you are going to be shooting 100+ rounds with no time to clean between stages moly may just be what you are looking for ...try it, if it doesn't work for you clean the barrel (Montana Extreme Moly Remover or Acetone will remove the moly and your are right back where you started...no harm no foul.

If you want to respond and argue with my prospective on moly, don't be surprised if I don't take the time to respond, however, if you wish to discuss my using moly I am here for you, after all it's only MY opinion...and yours may not be the same.  As they say on some of the other sites:  YMMV

Good shooting....

[Jeff]

Thanks AR10T.  I appreciate your experience and thanks for sharing it.  I too find it improbable that Tubb would risk his reputation over this.

[Precise]

Hello Jeff,

I came across this: http://www.sentrysolutions.com/SmoothKotekew.shtml

[Jeff]

Interesting stuff but pretty expensive.  I ended up getting some Lyman dry moly and some moly spray.  I was planning on using the spray to coat the barrel (after a thorough cleaning including alcohol) prior to shooting the moly bullets.