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This article asks some important questions as to what going on. The census guy came to my place the other day. I told them I have a religious belief against being enumerated and he left without incident. I am pretty sure the GPS marked my front door first before I answered. I caught another one the next day measuring the porch of my neighbor with the tape measure. What the hell is going on?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10688

Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?

By JB Williams  Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Republican Senator Judd Gregg was Obama’s first choice for the Secretary of Commerce post, and Gregg was actually considering joining the Obama team, until he found out that control of the US Census was being stripped from the Commerce Department and placed under the direct control of White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel.

Then, the same week that Americans learned that they were “domestic terrorists”—at least according to Obama’s new DHS (Department of Homeland Security),—if they own a bible, a pocket Constitution or guns, and still believe in Life, Liberty and Freedom, - they also learned that Obama’s Census Bureau had hired thousands of new temporary employees, equipped each with a handheld GPS computer and sent them out to mark GPS coordinates for every residential front door in America.

Oddly, it was this same period that news was breaking of an international flu pandemic, suspected of being a weaponized strain of the virus never before seen, - and that Obama’s team still sees no need to close the US-Mexican border, despite the cross continental spread of a deadly illness now claiming American lives.

Now, if any one of these events happened alone, one might not get too excited. But when a string of such events happen all at once, one begins to question the string of freedom and life threatening coincidences…

I can’t resist the urge to question the authority and purpose behind such a BIG BROTHER initiative, when the official Census itself is not due to be taken until 2010…

No imagination is required to think up a whole laundry list of evil that could be done with a nationwide GPS grid of coordinate’s markers painted on every private home across the country. But I was having trouble thinking up one good reason for it, even one legitimate use that would justify what must be a very expensive undertaking.

According to one of the Census workers, who spoke with me on condition of anonymity, they must GPS mark the coordinates “within 40 ft of every front door” in America and they are supposed to complete that mission nation wide, within 90 days, by the end of July 2009.

The workers were not told why they were GPS marking every front door. But a supervisor is sent out to follow them door-to-door, to make certain that no door is left unmarked. Every door will be marked by one employee, and then checked by a follow-up supervisor.

So, I had to ask, why?

Why does the Obama administration need or want the latitude and longitude coordinates for every home in America? Why the rush to GPS paint every home in the next 90 days? Why must the marker be within 40 ft of every front door? For what possible purpose does the Fed need GPS coordinates for every home, and under what authority do they have the right? Census workers, whom I asked, had the same holy-crap look on their faces that I had by then…

ACORN signed on as a national partner with the U.S. Census Bureau in February 2009 to assist with the recruitment of the 1.4 million temporary workers needed to go door-to-door to count every person in the United States — currently believed to be more than 306 million people. But the count doesn’t take place until 2010… This is April 2009.

Obama’s interest in an ACORN controlled 2010 Census, for the purpose of redistricting to the advantage of Democrats before the 2010 mid-term elections, comes as NO shock from a regime known for their heavy handed Rules for Radicals political strategies. But what does this have to do with GPS marking every home in the country?

The 2% of Americans, who have served military duty at some point in life, are very familiar with the most common use of GPS target painting. The other 98% of Americans might want to pick up a book on the subject, such as The Precision Revolution: GPS and the Future of Aerial Warfare ...

Their Authority?

RightSoup.com has just about the only online report available on the matter, and they report, “Why does the government (and ACORN) need to have the GPS coordinates of your FRONT DOOR? Your house is probably on Google Maps already. But the front door? Sounds like a jackboot convenience to me. This is a developing story, and several reports of those who have already been visited by the GPS squad can be found in this forum thread.”

If you challenge Census Bureau employees about the GPS marking of your private residence, you will be handed a preprinted explanation referring you to Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2, which explains the penalties for refusing to provide names and statistics of occupants when asked for by a census taker. This only applies when they are taking a census, (which will not be taken until next year), and the penalty for refusing to answer questions for a census is up to a $500 fine.

This is wrong it's only a $100 fine for refusing to answer, and $500 for giving false information. I have never ever heard of anyone actually being fined.

However, since the actual Census is not due to be taken until 2010, nobody is asking for any information today. They are only GPS marking your front door today, and Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2 provides the Fed NO authority to GPS paint your front door.

Best I can tell, the Fed has NO authority whatsoever, to paint the front door of every private residence in America. Still, that is exactly what they are doing. Now, the trillion dollar question is, why?

A State of Emergency

From Wikipedia - The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (such as states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

In short, the statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard operating under federal authority, from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States.

As members of the military are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution and the American people against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, a federal order to do the exact opposite, and take aim at American citizens, would be a clear violation of the US Constitution and the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, unless…

US Military personnel are trained to follow orders. But they are also obligated to refuse any order deemed “unlawful.” In order to make such an order appear “lawful,” the federal government would first have to declare a national “state of emergency,” such as in the case of an international pandemic, which can be demonstrated to threaten the health and well-being of American citizens.

Following a state of emergency declaration, a federal order for Martial Law would be expected, to allegedly provide law enforcement and security for citizens. This type of scenario can be followed by a presidential order to quarantine, disarm and contain American citizens in the name of national security, all of it, having the appearance of being “lawful.”

Is this what is happening?
Connecting the Dots

Alone, individual events look concerning, but not conspiratorial. What about when you place the pieces of the puzzle together and take a look at the entire picture developing?

Under this “theory,” how does the GPS marking of every private residence in the nation fit into the picture?

I wish I knew… but I don’t!

What I do know is this… Coincidences of this number and magnitude don’t happen. They certainly do not happen all at the same time, within hours or days of each other, out of the wild blue tin-foil hat heaven…

I also know that people had better start asking the right people the right questions and demanding answers fast. Begin with asking the mainstream press why there has been no public notification of the federal governments GPS marking your front door?

Then, I suggest contacting your local Census Bureau office immediately, and demanding an explanation as well as advice as to what law gives them the right to GPS paint every front door in America?

I’d also recommend sending a copy of this column to your state and federal representative, demanding that they put a stop to it or explain why it’s necessary, and what law gives them the right?

Unfortunately, we live in a moment of history when real events are much stranger than nutty conspiracy theories. The people have every right to know what is happening. But unless you demand to know, nobody’s talking!

Bill Clinton sold US nuclear technology to Red China for a mere $300,000 in campaign contributions. The event landed Chinese bagman Johnny Chung in prison, but put Hillary Clinton in the US Senate, and now at the helm of the US State Department.

Highly secured government servers are hacked daily. Soon, hackers will be able to grab a nation wide GPS grid map, marking the front door of every home in America.

How much is a GPS grid of every American household worth to the enemies of America, both foreign and domestic? I’d estimate, PRICELESS!

There is a foul odor resonating from the current regime in Washington DC and most Americans can smell it. Can most Americans gather the strength to do something about it?

U.S. Census Bureau
The Department of Commerce
Contacting the Congress

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 07:10:37 AM »
I agree with not liking the marking of every front door.  But this whole thing reads like a propaganda paper.  I don't like the fact that just about every sentence in it has the word GPS in it.  That is classic psychological warfare.  Insert a word to the point that it makes people angry just by sight.  Sorry Hawkieye Iam questioning every thing that comes down the pike now no exceptions.  They dont need to personally mark every front door with a GPS,  they have satellite systems that can do just that.  Hell they can get the coordinates to the cigarette but on your front lawn with them, I have seen these things work.  Did you ever think that maybe this whole story was put out by the OB admin to keep stirring the pot?  Or maybe the reason for the GPSs is not to mark doors but cause such a stir to bring out more of the right wing extremists,  so that they have a reason to institute their "Martial Law".  Just spitballing
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 09:41:51 AM »
eh< I admit I dont really pay attention to such things, but a guy came by my home last week saying he was from the census.

My kids answered the door, when I asked them what the man wanted they said census, so I got up to go talk to the guy and before I got the the door he was gone. Probably a criminal trying to find out if you are home or not I figured LOL. Now I wonder if it was one of these guys.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 10:08:03 AM »
 Go to switchboard. com, 411.com, and yellow pages type in the name of the person you want
 and when their name and their address appears you can do a mapquest to the address what
is there to hide. You not even with your driver license you can be found you have 10 days to
change your address on your license when you move. Your hunting license, when you file your taxes
now to put a GPS on your front door sorry no broken law.........except what is in your head.......

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 10:24:19 AM »
please don't forward retarded emails.

I do not belong to ACORN.  I am one of those census people.  ACORN did not assist with the hiring process. The vast majority of those whom I trained with are of the conservative bent.  The location of your front door is public information, but we will not be sharing it.  When the actual census is taken by short form survey, if the census doesn't get a form back from you they will dispatch a census employee to come to your house and perform a short interview.  I will not be a part of that, however I can tell you that I intend to only tell them how many people are in the house.  If you are frightened, do the same.  PS. we are done with Nampa.  We are currently working Owyhee County.  I'm pretty sure Boise, Meridian, and Eagle are finished as well.  It worked the best when people were not home (or didn't answer the door) and had an address posted on their house.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
Retarded Email WTF? Well I guess the retarded email did its job in eliciting a retarded response...

Maybe you can tell us why they are marking the front door? Did they give you any reason? Did you even bother to question it? Or does nobody give a shit? You guys are missing the whole point, which is WHY? I know  you can google it etc. but why do they need GPS coordinates of my front door? Especially if as 240 said they can do it from satellite? And people wonder why we just keep incrementing toward a police state... Sigh! Nobody questions anything or they just dismiss it.

Yeah the article speculates as to why looking at what GPS is normally used for. These are valid questions and the public has a right to know.

And  oh they broke no law, how about trespassing? Ever hear of the fourth amendment? No government agent has the right to come on my property and extract information without my consent.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Oh but this is no big deal you say ok great maybe it isn't but then why the fuck are they doing it? Government never does anything without some agenda they are pushing forward and I want to know why. Oh and ACORN did hire a bunch of these people just because they didn't hire you directly doesn't mean it isn't true.

Move along nothing to see here... Sigh!  ::)
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 11:31:20 AM »
MY GUESS -

The census has most addresses.  They mail out the census.  Many do not return them.  If it is worth the effort, someone must go out to the non-responding addresses.

The GPS coordinates can produce a list for the driver to get the most hits for the least amount of mileage.

They stopped in our store the other day and confirmed our address and that it was our home - GPS in hand.

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 11:45:15 AM »
That is a reasonable guess. It still begs the question why don't they just say that? Several people have asked them at the door and each gets a different non answer. Even if they had some other agenda you'd think that would be a good cover story to tell the census workers..
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 11:14:11 PM »
Retarded Email WTF? Well I guess the retarded email did its job in eliciting a retarded response...

Maybe you can tell us why they are marking the front door? Did they give you any reason? Did you even bother to question it? Or does nobody give a shit? You guys are missing the whole point, which is WHY? I know  you can google it etc. but why do they need GPS coordinates of my front door? Especially if as 240 said they can do it from satellite? And people wonder why we just keep incrementing toward a police state... Sigh! Nobody questions anything or they just dismiss it.

Yeah the article speculates as to why looking at what GPS is normally used for. These are valid questions and the public has a right to know.

And  oh they broke no law, how about trespassing? Ever hear of the fourth amendment? No government agent has the right to come on my property and extract information without my consent.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Oh but this is no big deal you say ok great maybe it isn't but then why the fuck are they doing it? Government never does anything without some agenda they are pushing forward and I want to know why. Oh and ACORN did hire a bunch of these people just because they didn't hire you directly doesn't mean it isn't true.

Move along nothing to see here... Sigh!  ::)


Since the Clinton administration, the government has built hundreds of thousands of "cellular phone towers" under a top secret CIA program.
These towers beam RF signals into your home for the purpose of mind control and mind reading for intelligence gathering. After 9/11, the program was acellerated under the guise of "homeland security".

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

The government has hired a bunch of drones, like OB, to collect GPS data. This is for the latest upgrade to the beam direction software in the radio antennas on these towers. This way, government operatives can more efficiently collect data and control you.

There is a way around this....RF shielding....buy some vinyl siding and large, thin copper sheets....solder the sheets together and cover your house in them, then drive a copper ground rod at least ten feet into the ground...attach the shielding to the ground rod with at least 4 gauge copper wire...coat the connections in heavy grease. Be sure to keep the soil around the ground rod moist for the best conductivity. Overlay vinyl siding over the copper. You can paint the copper shields white so that it looks like standard house wrap (this way the neighbors don't get suspicious).

Satelite imagery has really developed in recent years, and the .gov has the ability to keep track of you if you leave your home..this is bad juju, especially if the .gov operatives realize that your home cannot be reached by the CIA RF signals. They will try to aim the beam at you while you are outside. For this, line a baseball cap with copper foil, and solder a 10 gauge wire to it....make the wire long enough to reach your feet when wearing the hat and solder a female spade lug to it. Glue a piece of copper foil to your shoe, and solder a male spade lug to it. Before going outside, don the hat, and run the wire down the back of your shirt, down your pants leg, and connect the wire to the lug on the foil glued to your shoe.


The ultimate thing you can do to stop this crap is to "gift" these towers...this will disable the mind controlling/mood altering RF energy.

This can be done with someting call Organite...http://www.orgoniteinfo.com/

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 11:27:51 PM »
actually, we didn't need to ask, it was explained.  Should the mail get lost to or from you, or you refuse to fill it out and mail it back, then yes, someone will have to come out to your house and ask you how many people.  GPS of the front door is for them to find the place more reliably than driving around looking for some address that's somewhere around here or something...   (more necessary in the area I'm currently working)  The Constitution does not preclude this, you are not being searched, there is no seizure taking place.  The fact that a census will take place is in the Constitution, however.  If you have a problem with the procedures of the Census, I'd try contacting your US Congressman.  (just my guess, but like I said, I'll only be telling them how many people)
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 12:46:35 AM »
You don't understand the constitution. It is the law the federal government must abide by it restrict the government not the people. If the authority for the federal government to do something is not specifically delegated to them via the constitution then they have no authority to do it. It's not "It doesn't say it's precluded". Its precluded if its not specially authorized in the constitution! if it doesn't say they can do it then they cannot do it! That's what this whole state sovereignty bill was all about if you were paying attention.That's the essence of limited government and over a two hundred years of juris prudence that started with the inception of the constitution. They now ignore it and the American people do not understand it allowing them to get away with it.

The fourth amendment precludes them form violating my privacy or coming on my property without a proper warrant period as described in the 4th amendment. It doesn't say except for the census guy with his GPS.

By the way your the first census worker I have heard of who has said is was explained to them. So why didn't you say that right off the bat instead of the emotional response?
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 07:40:40 AM »
Uh, not to stir the pot here but why didn't you just ask a simple question instead of posting a fabricated lie full of untruths?

I believe OB, and the other workers that I know that I have talked to. This whole thing is barking up the wrong tree. Believe it or not, the gov't is actually using technology to do something efficiently. I know, it doesn't happen very often, which makes it hard to believe.

The simplest answer is usually correct... Sometimes I wonder what people are thinking when they call the government stupid but then accredit them with the brilliant plans for world domination.

Which is it?

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 07:43:38 AM »
Dont trust OB he is guilty of chemical war-fare on his fellow Idahoans.   :fart:
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2009, 01:07:59 PM »
Uh, not to stir the pot here but why didn't you just ask a simple question instead of posting a fabricated lie full of untruths?

I believe OB, and the other workers that I know that I have talked to. This whole thing is barking up the wrong tree. Believe it or not, the gov't is actually using technology to do something efficiently. I know, it doesn't happen very often, which makes it hard to believe.

The simplest answer is usually correct... Sometimes I wonder what people are thinking when they call the government stupid but then accredit them with the brilliant plans for world domination.

Which is it?

Brian K.

Why don't you point out the lies in the article? It was asking questions and proposing possibilities, what's wrong with that? The propensity for people to read things into something that are not there and get thier panties in a bunch over it is simply amazing.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 01:32:53 PM »
"I’d rather be governed by 2,000 random names in the Boston phone book than the faculty of Harvard." William F. Buckley Jr.

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 03:35:22 PM »
Google Earth anyone??


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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 03:58:39 PM »
Uh, not to stir the pot here but why didn't you just ask a simple question instead of posting a fabricated lie full of untruths?

I believe OB, and the other workers that I know that I have talked to. This whole thing is barking up the wrong tree. Believe it or not, the gov't is actually using technology to do something efficiently. I know, it doesn't happen very often, which makes it hard to believe.

May I ask why you believe OB?  I understand why the ACORN robots do, but you?  OB is a committed leftist.  I believe thare is nothing that this character wouldn't do to maintain control of his subjects. Look to the bailouts as an example!  Please don't be a sycophant.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 04:12:35 PM »
Greetings, and God bless.

"May I ask why you believe OB?"

I believe, when luvmy45 refers to "OB" he is not speaking of Obama, but "Orbital-Burn". He has posted in this thread on the subject of census workers, of which he is one.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 04:27:44 PM »
May I ask why you believe OB?  I understand why the ACORN robots do, but you?  OB is a committed leftist.  I believe thare is nothing that this character wouldn't do to maintain control of his subjects. Look to the bailouts as an example!  Please don't be a sycophant.

those are darn near fightin words :P
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 04:31:27 PM »
I could care less if they GPS mark the front door from one perspective. I mean steenkeen google has virtually the whole US road system photographed and satellites can read your newspaper before you do. To me, it's equivalent of collecting "evidence" in a case... well, before there's even a case. Take the co-ordinates from the road if you're that inept at getting directions. It's the principle of the thing.

This is what gets me. The arrogant stuck up SOBs that are called "census workers" (in a non-census year... do it in 2010 if it only takes 3 months!) who universally seem to take it personally when they can't GPS mark your front door when they're told to do it within 40 feet. So I would think it'd be more convenient and easier if I marked your property within 40 feet, rather than walking all the way to the front door... so why get so uppity when you're told not to mark the front door by a homeowner?

They're just little people on power trips if you ask me. 

(I should add, I don't know much about OB, so my comments are based on the many internet brief stories of encounters with the "early census" workers, rather than directed at OB)

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 05:13:09 PM »
those are darn near fightin words :P

My mistake -- I'm sorry.  I thought you were referring to Obama.  Again, sorry!
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 08:43:50 PM »
OB is not little - and his farts are known around the world - they are bad - - -

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 09:59:41 PM »
heard on the radio today about one that went into someones back yard apparently startling the homeowner who drew a .45 on them and called the cops.

(Served the idiot (Census Worker) right if you ask me for entering a fenced in back yard and approaching a person unannounced)
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 10:53:46 PM »
I agree.

The tendency of the human mind to fill in the blanks is what allows a lot of internet, msm and radio chatter to drone on incessently. Makes a big pile of cash for the few smart enough to tailor their "news" items to insinuate but never actually say...


My own theory on why the .gov would do such a thing.

It is part of the stimulus strategy. It eliminates the need for the taxpayer to bail out the tinfoil hat companies.   ;D

Obama and Acorn ???

The date on this press release is 2007. It looks like this was actually part of the vast right wing conspiracy and not the current crop of usual political suspects.  ;)

Yeah and the propensity of the sheep to ignore thier society crumbling around them and the causes is also amazing
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2009, 10:55:17 PM »
More on this - Whatever it is.....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97208


Good article, corroborates some things like ACORN's involvement etc.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2009, 08:03:29 AM »
"No imagination is required to think up a whole laundry list of evil that could be done with a nationwide GPS grid of coordinate's markers painted on every private home across the country." (From artilce sited above)

Obviously he doesn't read this website.  ;D

On a serious note, you do realize that this article you just posted, simply refers to the first article you posted as it's source? And then uses some internet blogger to list off a bunch of hearsay that he thinks is going on, and there is not one lick of actual evidence anywhere in the article. Other than Rahm is in charge?

For someone that is so wrapped up in the facts, like 9/11 you sure buy into this load of crap with very little evidence?    ??? and a whole lot of hearsay. If you applied the same BS meter to this article as you do to the 9/11 theories, I would think this would be at the extreme edge of the BS meter...

I will say, I am not defending the gov't, but come on people... worry about where to get primers instead of reading what Rahm and Obama have planned in their secret little lair on the East Coast.

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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2009, 11:26:56 AM »
"No imagination is required to think up a whole laundry list of evil that could be done with a nationwide GPS grid of coordinate's markers painted on every private home across the country." (From artilce sited above)

Obviously he doesn't read this website.  ;D

On a serious note, you do realize that this article you just posted, simply refers to the first article you posted as it's source? And then uses some internet blogger to list off a bunch of hearsay that he thinks is going on, and there is not one lick of actual evidence anywhere in the article. Other than Rahm is in charge?

For someone that is so wrapped up in the facts, like 9/11 you sure buy into this load of crap with very little evidence?    ??? and a whole lot of hearsay. If you applied the same BS meter to this article as you do to the 9/11 theories, I would think this would be at the extreme edge of the BS meter...

I will say, I am not defending the gov't, but come on people... worry about where to get primers instead of reading what Rahm and Obama have planned in their secret little lair on the East Coast.

Just sayin...

Brian K


I think you need to improve your reading comprehension skills. I have bought into nothing, I am asking questions nothing more. I read teh whole article. Nowhere did I say I believed all the possibilities posited.  The WND article referenced the other article only on some points.

As Thomas Jefferson said the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Which is why we are loosing our freedoms, to many folks just dismiss everything out of hand with little or no questioning. If you think we should ignore Rahm and Obama and want to laugh it all off as just tin foil hat stuff then you are a fool and no better then the rest of the sheep who think the economy is recovering. "Yeah the government is corrupt but they would never go this far" seems to be the theme of such folks despite the abundance of evidence to the contrary and the almost daily attacks on our freedoms by this government.

 As for 9/11 the people who dismiss it are always the ones who refuse to look at the evidence  because they read the popular mechanics garbage and then all they can do is try to ridicule and never have the balls to discuss facts, and get their panties in a bunch when anyone does try to have some meaningful conversation on the subject. All I can says is you have a rude awakening coming if you are among that class.
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Re: Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2009, 10:33:41 PM »
If they are taking these coordinates (and that is surprising), I'm not sure you need to go digging for a reason.  The census is when redistricting happens.  That data, along with registered voter info and poll info and a few software guys will allow crazy redistricting that locks the dems into a House majority or supermajority for damn near forever.  The texas legislature did it (Repubs), so did california (dems.)  Some crazy ass shaped districts.

They're Chicago politicians and will be effectively unopposed in their efforts.  They won't pass up that opportunity, I wager.