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Offline Jim

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Handguns at Joes
« on: March 27, 2009, 09:25:14 AM »
I don't know if it's already been pointed out yet or not but Joes in Meridian now sells pistols. 

I stopped in yesterday and looked at a couple of their compacts, example of prices:
Springfield XD .40  $489
HK compact .40  $939
HK compact .45  $1029
Kimber ultra crimson  $1079

just thought I'd share

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 02:27:38 PM »
Were all of these in stock?

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2009, 03:19:33 PM »
They were when I was there (I tried each of them on for comparison) but the guy at the counter said that somebody had just called about the XD and was on his way down to buy it.

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2009, 05:11:19 PM »
but they won't let you carry them!

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 06:28:42 PM »
but they won't let you carry them!

Its concealed for a reason...

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 04:02:45 PM »

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 04:18:40 PM »
ok i'll probably get jumped for this... but....

when you own the store you make the rules... until then quit bitching about it or do something about it...
Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 05:13:27 PM »
They have a no firearms sign or something?  (I guess i should have been more clear that I don't understand the statement that was made)

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 05:57:45 PM »
They are hard-core anti-open carry (told can't CC either). Kicked a number of people out I know of on various occasions, was told it was illegal and other BS, talked with corporate and they said the same thing... can't carry. Period. Big time A-holes about it too and I don't go around calling people a-holes...
and I did something about it miss_me... I let hundreds of people know (committed people, opencarry.org), most of whom will never set foot in that store or others around the country because I got the word out. I won't go there even for good deals. We have lots of good alternatives withing just a mile or two from there for similar and usually better stuff!

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »
They are hard-core anti-open carry (told can't CC either). Kicked a number of people out I know of on various occasions, was told it was illegal and other BS, talked with corporate and they said the same thing... can't carry. Period. Big time A-holes about it too and I don't go around calling people a-holes...
and I did something about it miss_me... I let hundreds of people know (committed people, opencarry.org), most of whom will never set foot in that store or others around the country because I got the word out. I won't go there even for good deals. We have lots of good alternatives withing just a mile or two from there for similar and usually better stuff!

Also the reason why I won't even go within 500' of the place.

The Moxie Java across the parking lot is more Pro-Gun than Joes is...
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 09:42:15 PM »
wow this really makes me not want to go to joes  :P

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 09:53:35 PM »
 :)  can't we all just get along?  Joe's may have a right to prohibit firearms cary in their store, just as we have a right to express our concern by not spending our money with them.  I am sure there are sporting goods stores in the area that support our rights.  I disagree with their policy..... so I will buy my sporting goods elsewhere.   :)
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 12:21:40 AM »
Well at least Joes' is safe because they don't allow guns.... ;)

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 08:14:40 AM »
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Kicked a number of people out I know of on various occasions, was told it was illegal and other BS,

Well it is illegal isn't it? It's private property and they have a right to say no guns, which makes you a trespasser on their property and therefore illegal for you to carry there.

I think it's stupid for a sporting goods store to have a no carry/no gun policy, kinda like a Vegetarian store that sells beef. Just doesn't make sense.

But, the very thing that we jump all over the government, about them violating our individual rights, we turn around an jump all over someone else for the very same reason. Seems a little two faced don't you think?

I don't have to like the FACT that some say's they don't want me to carry on their property, but we shouldn't rub their noses in it. If we want respect, the we have to give it.

As for me, well, you guys just avoid Joe's at all costs, and I'll be buying the .22 ammo and primers and powder as they show up at their counter, less competition in the store that way. Although, they haven't had squat for weeks.  :(

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 08:44:38 AM »
If it's not posted at the door then it's not illegal.  It only becomes that way  if a store manager asks you to leave and you refuse.

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2009, 08:46:22 AM »
Well it is illegal isn't it? It's private property and they have a right to say no guns, which makes you a trespasser on their property and therefore illegal for you to carry there.
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I've talked to several of the people Idaho Corsair mentioned that got kicked out. The JOE's employees and management think that Open Carry itself is illegal. In Idaho it isn't illegal. IN fact the ID Constitution prohibits it from being illegal.

So when JOE's says no guns in there, it has nothing to do with the legallity of Open Carry. All it does is prove to me that the company's policy is stupid. Therefore I don't shop there.
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2009, 09:23:31 AM »
I will support companies that value my rights. No amount of savings is enough to accept hypocrisy.

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2009, 09:24:59 AM »
Holy crap. Reading all of this I thought I was in the alpha-omega thread ;)

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2009, 10:02:51 AM »
i'm sorry but they have rights too....
Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2009, 10:36:18 AM »
According to the sherriff in my CCW class, you can carry anywhere even if its posted "no firearms" (excluding government buildings).  However if they ask you to leave for any reason, you must comply or you are trespassing.  That's the way I understand it.
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2009, 10:45:57 AM »
So why dont we all strap on open holsters and start up a protest right in front of their store for a day.  That way the general public knows where Joe's stands.  It might actually get the management to think.  I mean come on, no guns allowed in a gun store what the hell?
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2009, 10:50:57 AM »
So why dont we all strap on open holsters and start up a protest right in front of their store for a day.  That way the general public knows where Joe's stands.  It might actually get the management to think.  I mean come on, no guns allowed in a gun store what the hell?

Sounds like a good way to get some negative press..."Armed Thugs Attempt Use Intimidation To Change Store Policy"

My $.02, if you don't like their policy do your business elsewhere.  They have a right to set store policy just like you have the right to set policy on your private property.  If enough of the customer base agrees with you they won't survive especially in this economy.
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2009, 10:56:55 AM »
Good point but I wouldnt worry about the customer base too much seeing the finacial trouble they are in.  Sweet poetic justice.
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2009, 11:00:11 AM »
I don't think GI Joes relies on CCW holders and "gun nuts" to keep them open.  Besides it doesn't sound like anyone shops there anyway.  Lets just keep going to places like Sportsmans and Cabelas.  They have the best empty ammo shelves in town ! ;)
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Re: Handguns at Joes
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2009, 04:08:53 PM »
Well it is illegal isn't it? It's private property and they have a right to say no guns, which makes you a trespasser on their property and therefore illegal for you to carry there.
No. They said open carry was illegal in Idaho anywhere for anyone. That is what I was referring to. However - Trespassing only occurs once you've been told to leave and don't. I never violated that, nor did the other people that I know who also OC'd there. Thus we were legal the whole time. They went so far as to say one of us brandished a firearm by waving it all over the place... none of us even rested a hand on our gun. Ridiculous.


But, the very thing that we jump all over the government, about them violating our individual rights, we turn around an jump all over someone else for the very same reason. Seems a little two faced don't you think?
Actually what you said on face value re-phrased would say "we jump on the government and private businesses who violate our rights." So if that's what you meant, I agree. Anyone who violates my rights is to be reprimanded if legally possible.
now for what I think you intended to say... ;)
Not at all. It is WRONG when the government FORCES someone to do something in violation of their rights... we're not forcing Joe's to do anything. I FULLY respect their right to ban carry... thus I won't carry there... in this case it means I won't go there. Period. Thus they have a right to ban carry. I have a right to spend my money where I want to. :D

I don't have to like the FACT that some say's they don't want me to carry on their property, but we shouldn't rub their noses in it. If we want respect, the we have to give it.
I respect everyone, until they disrespect me... then I still usually respect them... for a while... kinda like a rubber-band effect. I'm not going to rub their noses in it, but when someone violates what I view a basic human right (self-defense) then I loose pretty much all respect for them as it shows they have little respect for human life. That's where the east and west differ. The west respects human life... now they probably do respect human life to be fair, but their actions say otherwise.  ;)

As for me, well, you guys just avoid Joe's at all costs, and I'll be buying the .22 ammo and primers and powder as they show up at their counter, less competition in the store that way. Although, they haven't had squat for weeks.  :(
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