Topic: .223 at sports Authority

[luvmy45]

Tonight a Sports Authority on Milwaukee there were 2 boxes of Winchester 40 ro 50 round 223, and about 20 or so 20 round boxes of the WWB .223. I didn't check the price, but it is there.

There was NO 9mm and 2 boxes of .45, one hardball and one Hollow point. The Hollow point followed me home It's amazing there is no self defense ammo on the shelves anywhere for 9mm, .40 or.45, this was the first I've seen in a few weeks.

Brian

[shotokan94]

I understand the rush on the market, but I wonder if some is the manufacturers holding back. Just a thought

[e11charlie]

I think you are right about that.  I think the one thing that put it into perspective was the movie Blood Diamond.  Where they talk about the diamond companies holding back supllies to drive up the prices of diamonds. 

[Nomad]

Way too much thinking, and people are buying up ammo as fast as they can.

[Bill, Idaho]

   I know for a fact ( because our agency is directly affected) the ammo plant in Lewiston layed people off and reduced output. They told us it "is the economy".
 Now in a free-market/capitalist society, with everybody and their dogs buying,  TRYING to buy every box of ammo as soon as it hits the shelf, how can that reason even begin to make sense? (We got that right from them)
   Kinda reminds me of the scam the oil companies have as far as the supply/demand theory. They produce less (under whatever excuse), we try to buy more.
Someone in the current administration was quoted as saying "we don't want to let a crisis go to waste...." (probably not word for word). The ammo companies slow production in a time when they have to realize the shelves are dry. Then they lay people off?
   I am in the same boat as everybody else. I have money rat-holed to load another hundred thousand rounds......but no where to spent it.
 In this case ammo-exactly like oil-is being used as leverage with the people. 
 

[fj40mojo]

Spent the day working at Cliff's with the wife because they were short a man.  8hrs and I never really got a break or sat down.  People from out of state coming in and buying whatever they can get their hands on because they can't get anything at home.  Primers, what we had, flying out the door and Cliff has limited primer sales to 500 per customer.  This is nuts!  Rumor I heard from Lewiston is that CCI laid off folks from it's primer mfg facility because they can't get components to make the primers, so where are all those components going?  Military arsenals I suppose because I doubt that the gov is having any trouble getting what they need. 

[Bill, Idaho]

Yeah, think about it. The distributors can't get stuff. That indicates a supply side problem, NOT a demand side problem.   
 Let's see....utilize the current political climate, add the big-business cut-throat practices, factor in the war (yeah, it's still called a war folks), sprinkle in the economy, pour in the bouncing metal prices and top it off with "normal" demand.
Stir vigorously.
  Bottom line, we, the consumers, are the ones getting the raw end.
Welcome to America.
 And like I've said, it's going to get a LOT worse before it gets worse.
 
     

[bourneshooter]

   I know for a fact ( because our agency is directly affected) the ammo plant in Lewiston layed people off and reduced output. They told us it "is the economy".
 Now in a free-market/capitalist society, with everybody and their dogs buying,  TRYING to buy every box of ammo as soon as it hits the shelf, how can that reason even begin to make sense? (We got that right from them)
   Kinda reminds me of the scam the oil companies have as far as the supply/demand theory. They produce less (under whatever excuse), we try to buy more.
Someone in the current administration was quoted as saying "we don't want to let a crisis go to waste...." (probably not word for word). The ammo companies slow production in a time when they have to realize the shelves are dry. Then they lay people off?
   I am in the same boat as everybody else. I have money rat-holed to load another hundred thousand rounds......but no where to spent it.
 In this case ammo-exactly like oil-is being used as leverage with the people. 
 

The word is that ATK/Speer has all its storage bunkers full to the brim, train cars full of ammo, ammo sitting around inside its facility. And that is loaded up ready to shoot ammo. For some reason they aren't shipping right now.

[Bill, Idaho]

Just a WAG, but I am willing to bet the ammo companies are going to do the exact same thing the oil companies did...they are going to wait and see just how high the market will go. Then, right about same the time the shooting public says enough, and sales start to level off, some of those railcars full of ammo will start to trickle out.

[neby98]

Well empty shelves sure make folks wanna buy more. The companies would have to be working together of course to pull something like that off.

[Bill, Idaho]

And.......

[TrooperBrian]

Well if you're willing to dish out for the heavier varmint loads, I saw boxes and boxes at Sportsmans, Cabelas, and Walmart today.

[neby98]

Well one would hope that other companies would get into the ammo business and bring the price down. ie capitalism would take place. Then assuming that their isn't a political scare ammo prices should drop out.

Especially given that tons of folks have stocked up on enough for the next ten years.

There is a breaking point.... unless all major manufacturers of ammo collude- which has been suggested in a few articles I've read, then we're screwed.

[SNAFU]

5.56 at sports authority is $10.99 per 20 round box (winchester white box 55 grain).

[pv74]

5.56 at sports authority is $10.99 per 20 round box (winchester white box 55 grain).

At $11 a box, I'll pass

[SNAFU]

At $11 a box, I'll pass

Lowest prices at the moment actually.

Cabelas has PMC at the same price, no one else (that I have seen local) has factory ammo cheaper than these 2 places.