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Patrol Shoot Parma
« on: February 03, 2009, 12:19:28 AM »
 Patrol shoot is coming up and that is a challenge on you and equipment........
 the smell of gun powder.......priceless........

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 12:30:32 AM »
right on... If I rememeber right, your grouped up in sqauds. Looking to join up with someone, hopefully someone I've shot with before ???

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 07:37:13 AM »
If someone would have me I would be willing to join up.  Maybe we could be team "Hold up this stinking thing is jammed, no wait I got it, no wait its jammed I need a cleaning rod."  Instead of just watching this time get to shoot.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 08:11:22 AM »
If someone would have me I would be willing to join up.  Maybe we could be team "Hold up this stinking thing is jammed, no wait I got it, no wait its jammed I need a cleaning rod."  Instead of just watching this time get to shoot.

Lately they've been running 4 man teams. RG and I usually team up with whomever (though I can't speak for him 100%, not sure what he has going yet). Your welcome to join us or if RG can't make it (bet he can!) then we can team up.

The Patrol Shoot is my favorite........but I like the LRTR shoot to..............and the IDPA shoots............hmmmm.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 09:00:53 AM »
 what is all involved in a patrol shoot?
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 09:21:12 AM »
Yeah i just noticed the thread below this one. I think i need to sit this one out and watch as I've never done one anything like that before.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 10:42:35 AM »
Right on yeah this sounds really cool
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2009, 04:39:13 PM »
What is the date and fees and such?
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 10:48:41 PM »
Man, that looks like a lot of fun!  ;)
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2009, 09:31:09 AM »
Yeah from the video it looks like a big course so i'd imagine you would be moving at a good pace
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2009, 04:23:39 PM »
Yeah from the video it looks like a big course so i'd imagine you would be moving at a good pace

I hate it when that happens..............
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2009, 06:14:05 PM »
ooohh, it's the big one 'lizabeth, Patrol shoot done kicked my @$$...


Hey, thats me!!
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2009, 06:46:27 PM »
Hey, thats me!!

Couldn't be-that dude is way to attractive to be you Spiff!
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2009, 08:21:43 PM »
 Politically correct of course.......

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 09:42:06 AM »
Couldn't be-that dude is way to attractive to be you Spiff!

Well, have to admit. He is a bit more distinguished looking than I am.  :(  He does however, catch the essence of how I've felt a few time after the patrol shoot (during?).

Still, the patrol shoot is my favorite! I recommend everyone give it a try.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2009, 11:43:03 AM »
Well, have to admit. He is a bit more distinguished looking than I am.  :(  He does however, catch the essence of how I've felt a few time after the patrol shoot (during?).

Still, the patrol shoot is my favorite! I recommend everyone give it a try.



Ditto!- ;D
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2009, 02:31:34 PM »
any word on shotgun or not?

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2009, 09:48:33 AM »
Sounds like fun, I might have to come and check it out and at least observe/help out etc.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2009, 10:44:57 PM »
If  you don't bring a gun, or at least some ammo with you, you will be the most depressed person on the face of the earth leaving the range.  ;D

Watching a patrol shoot and not shooting it, is like being a roller coaster junkie, and standing at the loading bay of the world's largest coaster and saying... I'll just watch.  :evilgrin:

There's always room for one more. Heck if we have too, we'll even make a special squad from those of us that have already shot to let you shoot.  ;D ;D

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2009, 07:27:26 AM »
Ok sounds good so what all does one need for a patrol shoot?
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2009, 08:05:35 AM »
Generally you will need:

1. Safety is ALWAYS paramount.

2. Some sort of battle rifle (ar15, AK, something with a standard capacity of 20 to 30 rounds)
3. Some way to carry AND retain your spare ammo and mags (some of use tac vest, other use belt clips, and simple shotgun hull bag for your waist will work to retain your mags. KISS principal here.
4. Sometimes there are long range and shotgun stages within the shoot. You won't know until a couple weeks before the shoot. But if you don't have them, just get some ammo and find a friend at the range.  ;D
5. Good attitude and willingness to be yelled at by the peanut gallery and RO (Sometimes they yell not so nice things :evilgrin:, well most of the time they yell not so nice things.)

200 rounds of rifle ammo
100 rounds of pistol ammo

This is a great place to try out your weapon's sighting system, sling system, how your gun works after ingesting 100 to 150 rounds in 10 minutes, how your reloads hold up, how your tac vest is laid out, how your pistol holster works or doesn't work. (Note, a retention holster of some sort is a good idea for the patrol shoot, as rolling around in the dirt is common practice  :evilgrin:), how's your reloading skills, hows your heart? You know after you pound 500 yards or so running can you still shoot? How's your ability to listen and communicate to your partners as everyone is yelling and screaming at you and you are shooting? When your gun jams... not if... how long till you recognize it and can fix the problem.

Fun stuff that you just can't get when you go pinking at the range on your own.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2009, 01:10:17 PM »
If your a shooter, and your into the tactical aspect of things (as most of us here are) you will probably have a blast at the patrol shoot. If anyone is worried about how they will perform, don't. With the exception of safety, every thing is usually pretty laid back. No one is going to throw a temper tantrum if your on their team and your gun jams or you don't hit 100% of your targets. Fast paced but fun.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 06:38:29 PM »
How much does it cost? (Besides the gas to Get there)
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2009, 08:36:20 PM »
 20.00 dalllars for the shoot.
 Bring extra ammo may shoot twice if a team is short a shooter........
 Rifles are sks, M1 Grands, and any thing that hold a mag of 5 or more rounds
 others loads mags as you shoot have done this in the past........
 Most everyone tries to help you out...........Lots of fun........ 

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2009, 06:50:58 PM »
I'm in! I don't have a team though.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2009, 07:16:00 PM »
I would be in, but I don't have all the gear I would need. I plan to watch. lol.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2009, 07:27:19 PM »
Might give it a try after I get my ACOG & break my AR in.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2009, 08:12:42 PM »
Iam in too.  Might not have my upper for my AR yet but I have the longrange shooter.  I hope it will be here by then butyou never know.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2009, 05:55:45 AM »
 Information on up coming Patrol Shoot Via NG and R2
 
 Gentleman;

We are fast approaching the Spring Patrol shoot.

 

This year's spring patrol shoot will require six members of which two members will be shooting sniper rifles and maybe some handgun. The other team members will be shooting battle or patrol rifles and handguns.

 

It is an over the course, on the ground shoot. Imagine A “patrol” thru an area. Sniper team members will not be with the main patrol but will be providing an  over watch and fire and movement cover from on top of the overlooking hills. Sniper team will have to move and reset at least 3  times and the patrol  team Will have to coordinate it's movement with the sniper team. The two team's movement will be controlled by the engagement of targets by each of the teams. The team Will use radio's to maintain communications,  control movement and to direct fires.

 

Each member must carry all of his ammo and support gear and magazines cannot be dropped and or left behind, pack it in and pack it out. Teams can expect to take anywhere from 20 to 35  minutes to cover the  COF during which time if their not shooting they are moving and for you veterans of this shoot you know you will likely be moving and shooting.

 

Each team member ON the ground fire  team needs at least 210 rifle rounds, and 50  handgun. Last year our teams  got to run the COF twice so  it  would be good to prepare for that. Snipers need 40 rounds for their rifles and 30 handgun.

 

Also, this is a work intensive shoot and  everyone is required to  help reset targets,  clean up etc

 

Set up will start noon on Friday. If you can help with the setup let me know.

 

We will limit the event to six  teams. I need RSVPs as soon as possible. If you have a team let me know who your team mates are. If not or if you have a partial team let me know so we can work on getting one put together. Make sure you plan your food and water intake and watch the weather, we could have sun and 50 degrees or rain and 35 degrees and everything in between.

 

Expect some crawling, scooting, prone and other uncomfortable circumstances. Maybe even some friendly encouragement along the way.

 

Should be a good shoot.

 

Ng and R2

 
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2009, 10:53:00 AM »
does anyone want to form up a team or have a group I can join up with?

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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2009, 10:58:02 AM »
does anyone want to form up a team or have a group I can join up with?

RG and I have 4 people so far for our team. We need two more.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2009, 11:07:47 AM »
thanks spiff, i will. sounds like fun. get to try out my new rra sbr and eagle chest rig setup.

how long does the setup go on friday? I want to make that but would be getting there around 2-3
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2009, 12:00:08 PM »
240-Rifles -----bring some .223 ammo if you want I have a couple AR rifles and I am someone else would let you use one as well to run the course if you bring ammo.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2009, 01:41:34 PM »
That is something I have plenty of.  Iam running with you guys right Spiff?
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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2009, 09:09:00 PM »
That is something I have plenty of.  Iam running with you guys right Spiff?

Yep.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2009, 12:03:23 AM »
 Is there still an empty spot left on our sqaud? weather looks to be pretty good.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2009, 08:19:02 AM »
Anybody know what time we are supposed to be out there and what time the festivities will begin?  Carpools?
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2009, 12:50:41 PM »
me and neby 98 may come to watch as we are seriously lacking in the equipment department, n e ways can anyone give is some directions, well be coming from caldwell.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2009, 07:22:44 PM »
This is gonna be sick!
My buddyand I are stoked.
Does anyone have a spare pistol in 9mm? I have 100 rounds but my brother flaked on me tonight.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2009, 07:44:02 PM »
 Thanks for doing a great job..........had lots of fun.......

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2009, 07:59:40 PM »
Linky no worky >:(
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2009, 09:31:53 PM »
Try again... but be warned, it's a long download. ...

So, here is the trick.

1. Click on Link
2. Goto to kitchen and fire up the popcorn popper.
3. Pop the popcorn.
4. Goto store and get your favorite adult beverage or other carbonated/non carbonated drink
5. Melt the butter in microwave
6. Pour butter over popcorn.
7. Goto bathroom (Don't worry, if you have to do a complete purge of the plumbing system, you have time)
8. Gather up popcorn, beverages, etc...
9. Goto garage and get lawn chair and camping table.
10. Get everything situated
11. Get comfortable.
12. Now, the movie might be ready to start viewing.

But it's WORTH EVERY MINUTE!!!!!!

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2009, 10:54:32 AM »
Alright, I'm just an impatient bastard.  Took forever, but worth the wait.  Thanks Bruce!
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2009, 06:15:23 PM »
won't load for me.

server may have been to busy
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2009, 06:21:19 PM »
Try again... but be warned, it's a long download. ...

So, here is the trick.

1. Click on Link
2. Goto to kitchen and fire up the popcorn popper.
3. Pop the popcorn.
4. Goto store and get your favorite adult beverage or other carbonated/non carbonated drink
5. Melt the butter in microwave
6. Pour butter over popcorn.
7. Goto bathroom (Don't worry, if you have to do a complete purge of the plumbing system, you have time)
8. Gather up popcorn, beverages, etc...
9. Goto garage and get lawn chair and camping table.
10. Get everything situated
11. Get comfortable.
12. Now, the movie might be ready to start viewing.

But it's WORTH EVERY MINUTE!!!!!!

You Rock Zona! Thanks!

Brian

Why not upload vids to youtube, and just embed code on the site, this way we don't have to wait forever to download and view vids?
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2009, 08:00:22 PM »
got it to load, but it was pixelated and had no sound.
America is at an awkward stage, it's too late to work within the system, and to early to shoot the bastards.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2009, 08:00:44 PM »
You tube would fix it, except it's over 100mb and you can't load a video larger than that. So you would have to redo it at a smaller size. Or split it up into a 2 chunks and have a part 1 and part 2.

Agree, my home DSL is slow, but my work with the 2 - T1 lines is pretty fast.

The main reason it's on the Parma site is because the Parma Rod and Gun Club is the home range and host page. Nothing against youtube, I have my own channel, but anything I do at Parma I usually send to the Parma webmater for the Parma site as well.

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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2009, 10:27:19 AM »
bet you could shrink that vid down to around 50-75 megs with divx.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2009, 06:10:05 PM »
thanks i'll check that out...i think the editing software i use can compress it even more...i'll check that out. If i can get it under 100 meg maybe i'll upload it to an internet server like photobucket or youtube...

why not post it to a divx streaming site like vreel.net ?

(encode/convert with dr divx)
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2009, 07:18:04 PM »
I tried running it through mencoder this afternoon and could only get it down to 106MB.  ???
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2009, 08:33:54 PM »
I tried running it through mencoder this afternoon and could only get it down to 106MB.  ???

not using the right software then.

Try this one.

http://www.autogk.me.uk/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=1
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2009, 07:45:37 PM »
i don't know jack of which you speak. I'll have to check it out and get some computer hacking skills.

vreel is like youtube, but uses divx and doesn't re-encode anything.

and autogk is easier to use than 99% of other video encoding apps, just set the desired file size and audio type & quality, add it to the job list, click start, and let it do the rest.

then you just check the finished vid for quality, and try it again when needed.
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Re: Patrol Shoot Parma
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2009, 10:34:59 PM »
vreel is like youtube, but uses divx and doesn't re-encode anything.

and autogk is easier to use than 99% of other video encoding apps, just set the desired file size and audio type & quality, add it to the job list, click start, and let it do the rest.

then you just check the finished vid for quality, and try it again when needed.
 

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