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"2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« on: January 12, 2009, 10:03:53 PM »
Alot of "WTF Over" lines in this article.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/64388

By Mike Parker in Los Angeles

ASSASSINS targeting Barack Obama’s inauguration ceremony have been warned they face being cut down in a hail of two million bullets.

Obama will become the best-guarded world leader in history when he is sworn in on January 20.

In an operation estimated to cost $20million, America’s new president will be shielded from danger by 11,500 soldiers and 4,000 officers from 96 police forces.

US Air Force fighters will patrol the skies over Washington D.C. as Obama swears his oath of allegiance on the White House south lawn.

As many as five million people are expected to descend on the capital, according to city mayor Adrian Fenty.

And Hollywood stars including Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney, Oprah Winfrey, Sharon Stone and Beyoncé will headline scores of glittering “after parties”.

Four thousand police officers, many from neighbouring states West Virginia and Philadelphia, will handle “on-the-streets” law enforcement.

They will be backed up in the event of an emergency by 4,000 National Guardsmen, with a further 7,500 federal troops on standby at strategic points outside the city limits. 

Asked about estimated total firepower, a Defence Department spokesman said: “How does two million plus rounds of ammunition sound?”

That awesome firepower, if needed, would come from thousands of standard, army-issue M16A2 rifles, designed for either shoulder or hip-fired automatic and semi-automatic shooting.

At least 20 Secret Service teams of two agents will protect Obama, his family, Vice President Joe Biden and other members of the government.

All agents will be armed with the Service’s “primary weapon” – the SIG Sauer P229 pistol specially-chambered for the .357 Magnum cartridge – as well as a range of close combat weapons, including the IMI Uzi.

Air Force General Victor E. Renuart Jr, a senior commander in the combined forces operation, said: “It would make news for a terrorist or rogue element to interrupt this event. So it is prudent to plan for the possibility of this happening and deter it or respond to it.”

That response also takes into account the possibility of a hi-tech “electronic attack” – similar to the fictitious assault in the 2007 Bruce Willis film Die Hard 4 – aimed at paralysing Washington.

Teams of computer experts at the city’s J. Edgar Hoover Building – the bureau’s national HQ – will be monitoring
utilities and transportation systems for any signs of hacking or intrusion.

Northern Command military counter-intelligence units and the CIA will also be monitoring global movements of known terrorist cells.

But one of the “worst case scenarios” is that a lone, armed attacker with no previous history of crime or violence somehow slips their net.

As America’s first black president, fears of a race hate-fuelled assault on Obama have already sparked a massive FBI probe into ultra right-wing extremist groups.

This followed the arrests of three neo-Nazis who targeted him at the Democratic Party Convention in August.

Despite the fact they were bunglers, an arsenal of weapons, including high-powered rifles, was found in one of their vehicles.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff immediately doubled Obama’s personal Secret Service guard – an unprecedented move for a president-in-waiting.

But yesterday, a senior FBI agent said: “That’s going to look like play time compared to the army that will guard him when he is sworn in as president.”
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 10:39:44 PM »
So let me get this straight,

11,500 soldiers and 4,000 officers

backed up in the event of an emergency by 4,000 National Guardsmen, with a further 7,500 federal troops

plus 20 Secret Service teams of two agents (40)

comes to 27040 personnel

27040 divided by 2 million rounds = 73.9 rds per personnel

Pffff.....Yeah I got them beat.




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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 12:58:37 AM »
As I said, this article is full of failings.

Alot more SS agents will be present than the 20 teams of 2. Just watch President Bush's motorcade.

Most SS/FBI agents and local LE will only carry 2 extra mags if that. So figure 13 rounds per mag for an average. One in the chamber. And 2 extra mags. That equals = 40 rounds per non Longgun carrying officer/agent.

BTW, anyone want a 357 magnum SIG? Sure would be worth alot for collectors value.
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 07:03:51 AM »
I think its funny how the acronym for the secret service is SS.  But on a serious note, dont the SS that actually have body guard duty carry PS90s now?  Short barrel version of course.
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 07:24:51 AM »
The question I have is, what does the government know that we don't? (Beside's how to best spend my money)

Bush vs. Gore - That was a controversial election, with Gore side screaming the Bush stole the election, voter fraud, taking it all the way to the supreme court and back. I would have expected that some left wing wacko would have made some sort of attempt.

Today, we have a rather peaceable election of Bho, and you have all these extraordinary actions being taken. Shutting down DC. No cars in or out, mass bussing of all people to and from the site, huge guard force.

Is this normal for a inauguration?  I have done several events where POTUS has been at, and the SS do take their job seriously, and are a royal PIA to work with at times. They shut down event centers, and cause huge lines to form to get into venues. But is this a normal compliment of force for an inauguration, and the UK trash mags are making a big deal, or is this truly an massive overwhelming undertaking, that is beyond what we have seen int he past?

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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 07:39:54 AM »
All agents will be armed with the Service’s “primary weapon” – the SIG Sauer P229 pistol specially-chambered for the .357 Magnum cartridge – as well as a range of close combat weapons, including the IMI Uzi.

I would have to agree that this was just poor reporting. The moron could have gone to the sig web site and verified his information even though he is a liberal press boy.

Unless our tax dollars are now going to buy super secret compactable .357 rounds that magically fit into the space of a .38 super until they magically stretch back out to fire in a pistol designed for nothing larger than a 1.125 OAL cartridge.
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 09:46:34 AM »
I think its funny how the acronym for the secret service is SS.  But on a serious note, dont the SS that actually have body guard duty carry PS90s now?  Short barrel version of course.






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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 09:59:47 AM »
Wait a second. I thought guns werent necessary for personal protection.  ???   ::)

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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 10:01:14 AM »
I think its funny how the acronym for the secret service is SS.  But on a serious note, dont the SS that actually have body guard duty carry PS90s now?  Short barrel version of course.

The SBR version are the P90's and come standard with 10.4 in barrel with full auto, the PS90 is the civilian version.

a lot of people knock this rifle around as being infective or too small a caliber, but in reality, it really is a bad ass gun.

What other gun out there can hold 50rds in such a compact lightweight package?
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 10:11:19 AM »
The SBR version are the P90's and come standard with 10.4 in barrel with full auto, the PS90 is the civilian version.

a lot of people knock this rifle around as being infective or too small a caliber, but in reality, it really is a bad ass gun.

What other gun out there can hold 50rds in such a compact lightweight package?

Yeah, if the bullets that were originally released for them were available, I'd like one. The current rounds available are not as deadly IMO.
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 10:14:28 AM »
Yeah, if the bullets that were originally released for them were available, I'd like one. The current rounds available are not as deadly IMO.

Agreed! but still a fun gun to shoot.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 10:33:32 AM »
I would see this as a useful gun for CQB work when you have to get into and out of vehicles on a regular basis, plus it looks more like a toy than the standard short barrel M4 so it might scare the sheeple a little less.

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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 11:06:11 AM »
FWIW: PS90 = semi and P90 = auto.  ;)
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2009, 11:49:01 AM »
When someone looks at these images, the very thought of one of them would stop an assassin dead in his tracks. Which one do you think it is? ;D


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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2009, 12:02:56 PM »
or someone employed by the latter...

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2009, 12:33:39 PM »
They either want to practice locking down a city or they have a false flag operation planned or both. Maybe they want to cause chaos while they have the troops in place to see how they can handle it. Sort of a trial run if you will.  DC is a relatively small area with a large population and heavy gun restrictions. Perfect trial balloon fodder if you ask me. What better way to incite chaos then stage an attempt on a president at his inauguration especially the first black president. They may sacrifice one of his bodyguards or it could be a convenient way to take him out... Anyways there is my wild speculation  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2009, 12:39:27 PM »
 IED's, suicide bombers, they hijacked planes with box openers, and the story goes on
dip the bullets in bacon grease and no problems at least from one side.....
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2009, 12:41:28 PM »
I just might have to watch it, but of course I'll keep a barf bag handy.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2009, 01:49:43 PM »
If the SS can't stop a few shoes then they can't stop a bullet

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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2009, 01:56:16 PM »




The second Picture was from Obaminations detail the day after the gov dependents elected him to be our next dictator.

Pay close attention to his tactical stance.  In order to not seem so intimidating he must stand with his hands in his pockets.  "Nothing to see here just an average guy with an automatic weapon standing by a tree.  Move along move along"
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2009, 05:53:51 PM »


Pay close attention to his tactical stance.  In order to not seem so intimidating he must stand with his hands in his pockets.  "Nothing to see here just an average guy with an automatic weapon standing by a tree.  Move along move along"

Notice to the way that these goons always have to have a face mask of some kind.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2009, 06:06:42 PM »
Notice to the way that these goons always have to have a face mask of some kind.

One of these days we are going to regret the militarization of our police forces...............
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2009, 06:08:27 PM »
One of these days we are going to regret the militarization of our police forces...............

We already have several dead people that do....

But your going to scare the sheeple if you keep saying like that...

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2009, 06:55:52 PM »
Militarization of Police Force, and Policization of Military...go figure. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2009, 07:09:21 PM »
Notice to the way that these goons always have to have a face mask of some kind.

Based on the long sleeves and his hands in his pockets, I think he has a face mask for the weather.

Yeah they guys who do this stuff should have their faces visible so we know who it is that should be responsible for actions.
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2009, 07:50:06 PM »
Based on the long sleeves and his hands in his pockets, I think he has a face mask for the weather.

Maybe, Maybe Not, remember that the ATF wore Ski Masks and long sleeves at waco.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2009, 08:13:45 PM »
Maybe, Maybe Not, remember that the ATF wore Ski Masks and long sleeves at waco.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2009, 10:48:25 PM »
Like I said, it could be a logical explanation like cold weather or its more likely one of its typical gov goon who wears a mask to hide his identity.
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Re: "2 Million Bullets Face Potential Obamination Assassins."
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2009, 12:58:47 AM »
Any one else notice the "states of West Virginia and Philadelphia"?
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2009, 01:22:12 AM »
Based on the long sleeves and his hands in his pockets, I think he has a face mask for the weather.

Yeah they guys who do this stuff should have their faces visible so we know who it is that should be responsible for actions.

Seriously doubt it's because of the cold this is pretty standard these days for swat and entry teams etc. to wear masks.

In the America I grew up in criminals wore masks to hide their face from identification.
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2009, 11:11:01 AM »
The mask is because it is Lon Horiuchi out of retirement

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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2009, 01:07:01 PM »
Notice to the way that these goons always have to have a face mask of some kind.
Eh, I wont speak for other "goons" but many SOU or SWAT operators have good reason for masks. Often times the guy who is on the swat team is also a narcotics detective. Its true that there is a certain intimidation factor when it comes to tactical entry and the baclava plays into that but there are other reasons as well. Just a thought to ponder :-\
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2009, 06:05:57 PM »
Often times the guy who is on the swat team is also a narcotics detective. Its true that there is a certain intimidation factor when it comes to tactical entry and the baclava plays into that but there are other reasons as well. Just a thought to ponder :-\

Oh I thought of that, if that were the case then why on earth would he pose for a photo?
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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2009, 06:20:50 PM »
Eh, I wont speak for other "goons" but many SOU or SWAT operators have good reason for masks. Often times the guy who is on the swat team is also a narcotics detective. Its true that there is a certain intimidation factor when it comes to tactical entry and the baclava plays into that but there are other reasons as well. Just a thought to ponder :-\

From the horses mouth, NPD TRT, the reason for the balclava is to help scare whomever they are effecting entry on.

Don't forget that the nomex material of the mask will help when flashbangs are being deployed. If you've ever been near one outdoors let alone indoors you'll want goggles and a nomex facemask.



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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2009, 11:51:45 PM »
Oh I thought of that, if that were the case then why on earth would he pose for a photo?
Pose for the photo? What makes you think he posed for that photo? If he did, thats the dumbest pose I have ever seen. Hands in pockets passive. not exactly the image of the  ever vigilant terrorist fighter. More likely a reporter snapped that shot. But who knows.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2009, 11:59:33 PM »
Pose for the photo? What makes you think he posed for that photo? If he did, thats the dumbest pose I have ever seen. Hands in pockets passive. not exactly the image of the  ever vigilant terrorist fighter. More likely a reporter snapped that shot. But who knows.



I'm by no means a professional photographer, but to me it looks a LOT like a Picture for a Catalog.
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2009, 01:15:08 AM »


I'm by no means a professional photographer, but to me it looks a LOT like a Picture for a Catalog.

I'm beginning to think i need to join whatever he's in... they give you a whole shit load of toys...
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2009, 07:01:00 AM »
And besides the toys the money is not to shabby either from what I hear, and if you leave with that training you can go almost anywhere you want (US Marshal, DEA, CIA, FBI, Blackwater, ETC...)
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2009, 08:31:02 PM »
Wow the Praetorian guard has grown quite a bit over the years.

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