Topic: Resident Alien concealed carry?

[romo23]

Hey all,

    I have a friend that is a resident alien, from Canada, currently an idaho resident and has been for a few years. he has recently become interested in guns and i have looked through the statutes on whether or not as a resident alien he can obtain a concealed carry license, so i figured someone here would know. statutes mention citizens and rights and such but then also says you are disqualified if you are an ILLEGAL alien which to me suggests that  alegal alien could get one.

thanks.

[XDMHMMWV]

If you are in Boise, go down to the Sheriffs office and talk to the nice lady who handles CCW.

[romo23]

I plan to in the next few days if no one here knows, i figured someone that taught the concealed classes would know.

[XDMHMMWV]

I figured asking someone in an on line forum would be akin to asking a cop about the law.

No, that was not a bash against cops, just saying that there are too many laws to keep track of without being a specialist.
The only way to get at the real truth would be to ask the CCW lady.

[neby98]

http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302.htm



IDK. It says that the Sheriff must inquire as to your citizenship but doesn't clearly say US Citizen as far as I can see... though it does says you can't be an illegal alien.

[popsgunner]

As long as your not ILLEGAL or doing illegal things, your friend will be able to get their ccw, Have them take a class and apply. Piece of cake. We had a gal from South Africa a few years back take our class and got her ccw no problem.
Pops

[romo23]

Sounds good, I will send him your way pops.

[popsgunner]

 

[birddog1989]

just saying that there are too many laws to keep track of without being a specialist.

That is no shit. 

[2big2fail]

That is no shit. 

44,000 new laws for fiscal year 2012 according to resources that track such activity.  that's Fourty-Four Thousand!  Every citizen would have to attend a college semester just to get through the summary.

[Havanagunner]

My son in-law is from Canada. When he went in to apply for U.S. citizenship here in Boise, he was asked what kind of hobbies he enjoyed. He stated that he and his son enjoyed shooting. The agent then asked if he owned any guns and he stated yes. At that time he was told that it was illegal for anyone who is not a citizen of the US to own firearms. He was notified that he would be looking at deportation. He was told that he could not even live in a house where guns were kept. After a lawyer was involved and it was shown that he was married and that my daughter was the owner of the guns, he was off the hook and able to become a citizen of the US. Since then I was with him at a gun show here in Boise, and he tried to purchase a shotgun. When they ran the paperwork his request was denied. He had to jump through a whole bunch of hoops to have his rights restored. Now that was six years ago and maybe things have changed. But as suggested a check may be in order, and it may be wise to not say you already own a gun until you find out.
 

[birddog1989]

That is no shit. 

After thinking about it I only deal with Criminal and Traffic law so that's not to bad.

[romo23]

From the horses mouth (canyon county), you do not need to be a citizen, the only requirements are that you are 21, a permanent resident, have proof of firearms training, and have not committed any of the crimes inquired about on the application.

problem is one question asks if you are legally allowed by federal law to own a firearm, so i called the boise atf.

who stated that federal requirements for firearm ownership are that the resident alien have proof of living in the state for 90 days prior to purchase.

all in all any permanent resident of idaho (proof of living in idaho for 90 days) can obtain a ccw in canyon county given they have not committed the obvious crimes.

[Havanagunner]

My son in-law is from Canada. When he went in to apply for U.S. citizenship here in Boise, he was asked what kind of hobbies he enjoyed. He stated that he and his son enjoyed shooting. The agent then asked if he owned any guns and he stated yes. At that time he was told that it was illegal for anyone who is not a citizen of the US to own firearms. He was notified that he would be looking at deportation. He was told that he could not even live in a house where guns were kept. After a lawyer was involved and it was shown that he was married and that my daughter was the owner of the guns, he was off the hook and able to become a citizen of the US. Since then I was with him at a gun show here in Boise, and he tried to purchase a shotgun. When they ran the paperwork his request was denied. He had to jump through a whole bunch of hoops to have his rights restored. Now that was six years ago and maybe things have changed. But as suggested a check may be in order, and it may be wise to not say you already own a gun until you find out.
 

After discussing it with my Son in/law I found out the reason he was rejected was for some skeletons in his closet, he was hiding from the family. All in all he has paid his dues and now can legally own firearms in the US.