Author Topic: 'Update' 3/2/2012 Patrol Shoot (Read 712 times)

Nomad · « **on:** December 30, 2011, 04:52:23 PM »

Setup will be Satrday Morning starting @ 0730-0800 hours with all that are going to be shooting the match need to be there to help. Questions contact match director through the Parma R&G web site.....
Some will be working on the tower and targets Friday

Looking forward to having some fun this spring......
Hope to see you there....

Spring Patrol Shoot

March 17th. Set up on the 16th starting at 1pm. Saturday signup at 0830 shooting by 0930. Plan on 200 rounds rifle, 50 rounds handgun. 70 rounds split between a DM and sniper rifle. This will be a IRON SITES ONLY match excepting the sniper and DM rifles. Rappell tower will be used. RSVP to enter match. Team match with 4 man teams. Each team needs to provide 80 rounds of surplus .308 ball that can be linked, NO RELOADS ALLOWED. You may guess and ponder how that will be used. J Match fee will be $35.00 and will include lunch. Range closed. On Friday shooters can check with the setup crew.

tgibson · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2011, 06:35:56 PM »

Quote from: Nomad on December 30, 2011, 04:52:23 PM

Looking forward to having some fun this spring......
Hope to see you there....

Spring Patrol Shoot

March 17th. Set up on the 16th starting at 1pm. Saturday signup at 0830 shooting by 0930. Plan on 200 rounds rifle, 50 rounds handgun. 70 rounds split between a DM and sniper rifle. This will be a IRON SITES ONLY match excepting the sniper and DM rifles. Rappell tower will be used. RSVP to enter match. Team match with 4 man teams. Each team needs to provide 80 rounds of surplus .308 ball that can be linked, NO RELOADS ALLOWED. You may guess and ponder how that will be used. J Match fee will be $35.00 and will include lunch. Range closed. On Friday shooters can check with the setup crew.

Iron sights or non magnified sights?
Adios,
TG

luvmy45 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2011, 06:46:38 PM »

I had the same question... I'm thinking he's thinking Iron sights only, because he's that way

I'll ask him and find out.

Scarecrow · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:14:54 PM »

I've only been to a few patrol shoots. What I loved about them was that there was no gear restrictions. It was always get jocked and run what you brung under whatever conditions are presented. Seems like it's more and more "Get jocked up and run what you would bring to a narrow set of conditions."

Nomad · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2011, 09:29:06 PM »

Iron sights are just that, no scopes, red dots, aimpoints. They would be as a A2 handle or standard sights on a AK or SKS , stock Fal etc.

tgibson · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2011, 10:08:42 PM »

Sweet. I'll just take off my glass and run these. DUECK DEFENSE RTS SIGHT SYSTEM
Adios,
TG

egress81 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2012, 05:32:53 PM »

so we will need a sniper and a DM for this one? or could a DM rifle in .223 do it all.

Nomad · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2012, 12:03:59 AM »

Would PM match Director..........

multicamspartan · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:08:31 PM »

What is the point of iron sights only? Trying to level the playing field? Doesn't seem very tactical. This is called a Patrol shoot, not a minimalist shoot.

Could end up like the Fall 2011 Patrol shoot, cancelled due to lack of participation. Just saying!!

luvmy45 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2012, 04:47:16 PM »

Quote from: multicamspartan on January 26, 2012, 04:08:31 PM

What is the point of iron sights only? Trying to level the playing field? Doesn't seem very tactical. This is called a Patrol shoot, not a minimalist shoot.

Could end up like the Fall 2011 Patrol shoot, cancelled due to lack of participation. Just saying!!

What's the point of iron sights only? It's what the match director has in mind for this shoot.

If you want to come and play, take off the optics and see what you got... I shot my first patrol shoot with irons only, I really didn't feel that handicapped.

If you want to use optics, then you can be the DM or the sniper and keep your glass.

And if you feel you can do a better job as the Patrol Shoot Match Director... step on up... Just saying.

multicamspartan · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:02:38 PM »

So what I am reading is that what the Match Director wants, the Match Director gets, no matter what anyone else wants or suggests? Why not take a vote?

I would safely presume that one goal is to have maximum participation, especially after last patrol shoot. But if it is designed for a select few that want to be told what gear they can use, then have fun with that. Furthermore, if your not the Match Director you shouldn't respond as if it is a personal attack, and if you are the Match Director, don't take it personally. Just saying !!!

mace2364 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2012, 06:27:56 AM »

Iron sights only sounds interesting to me. Good opportunity to dust off those oddball weapons. If it's not a drill weekend, I hope to be there. I've got some friends I'm sure would like to go as well.

luvmy45 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2012, 08:43:45 AM »

Quote from: multicamspartan on January 26, 2012, 05:02:38 PM

So what I am reading is that what the Match Director wants, the Match Director gets, no matter what anyone else wants or suggests? Why not take a vote?

I would safely presume that one goal is to have maximum participation, especially after last patrol shoot. But if it is designed for a select few that want to be told what gear they can use, then have fun with that. Furthermore, if your not the Match Director you shouldn't respond as if it is a personal attack, and if you are the Match Director, don't take it personally. Just saying !!!

Remember what they say about assumptions... and this case is more true than not. We are not looking for maximum participation, which is why the last patrol shoot was a invitation only, and unfortunately for that shoot, most of the invitees had other business to that took priority.

You want to know why there is no vote... because it's not your match. Plain and simple, you want to have input in what this match is about. Setup is on Friday before the match, be there and help out, and you can make suggestions all you want.

Nomad · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2012, 09:02:01 AM »

If the Match Director sets up the course of fire and they will listen to what you say......
As an example go to a major match and tell them what to do, I am sure that they will
tell you as to your choices.........
You want a match set it up your way, plan and simple. Many open dates on the Parma
calender to choose from..........

EDGE · « **Reply #14 on:** January 27, 2012, 09:10:29 AM »

One of the things I really like about these matches (Patrol Shoot, LRTR, etc.) and this match director are the lesson's that come from each of these matches. The matches always have a subject matter to them and I always come away with more knowledge and skills. Something you don't always get with the "just point and shoot as fast as you can" matches. (not that there is anything wrong with those matches, as I enjoy them too). I see this upcoming Patrol Shoot as another skill builder classroom exercise that will enhance my knowledge and abilities.

Scarecrow · « **Reply #15 on:** January 27, 2012, 06:47:11 PM »

Quote from: luvmy45 on December 30, 2011, 06:46:38 PM

I had the same question... I'm thinking he's thinking Iron sights only, because he's that way

I'll ask him and find out.

Well, what'd he say?

luvmy45 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 27, 2012, 10:31:24 PM »

If you have ever met the match director, he is a character and can motivate you like no one else... the answer was... what's the matter, ya scared?

So off with the scope and on with the iron's... I've been shooting iron sights at the indoor .22 postal match lately, it's kinda fun going back to the irons after using a scope for a while...

I'll have my sniper rifle with me as well so if we get to do it a couple of times hopefully I can run it in a couple of positions.

mace2364 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2012, 04:47:05 PM »

Any idea on what distance the long range targets will be at, or specifically what would be an appropriate caliber for the "sniper" rifle? I've got a few that might work, so I'm trying to figure out which. Also, is 200 rds shooting a perfect iteration, or is it the recommended ammo load for us mere mortals.

ida83704 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2012, 11:06:20 PM »

Quote from: mace2364 on February 25, 2012, 04:47:05 PM

Any idea on what distance the long range targets will be at, or specifically what would be an appropriate caliber for the "sniper" rifle? I've got a few that might work, so I'm trying to figure out which. Also, is 200 rds shooting a perfect iteration, or is it the recommended ammo load for us mere mortals.

for sniper-y rifles, max distance would be 900 yards or so, not sure on minumum distance, depends.
using a .308 is pretty common

Nomad · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2012, 06:50:56 PM »

Plan on at least 1000 yards the talk we had the other day his statement figure at least 1000
so plan and as soon as its know, it will get posted........

ida83704 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2012, 07:18:31 PM »

Quote from: Nomad on February 26, 2012, 06:50:56 PM

Plan on at least 1000 yards the talk we had the other day his statement figure at least 1000
so plan and as soon as its know, it will get posted........

that's cool. Since it is more than 900, that would mean some nifty possibilities.