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Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« on: December 13, 2011, 07:47:51 PM »
So I am just getting into long range shooting and have a question about aftermarket stocks.  I currently have a SPS Tactical AAC SD, which came with the Hogue overmolded stock.  I have heard that replacing the stock is a primary objective to increasing accuracy of the rifle.  I have been looking at several and I think I have it narrowed down to either the Bell and Carlson or HS Precision.  Both companies make several that will work on my 700.

My question:  Is there a specific model that you long range shooters out there would recommend?  And are the HS Precision stocks really that superior to the Bell and Carlson to justify the increased cost of them? 

If I could afford it I would go McMillan or Manners; however they are out of my price range.  The rifle is going to be a tactical rifle that I would like to shoot out to some good distances. 
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 09:19:42 PM »
The B&Cs are serviceable. I wouldn't buy one if you plan on doing any exterior mods. The material they are made of isn't easy to work with.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 09:00:38 AM »
Both stocks you mention are better than the Hogue for shooting prone off a bi-pod.
As Fj mentioned the Bell and Carlson is a serviceable stock as long as you like it the way they ship it and not picky about finish. They rely on the aluminum chassis for stiffness so when they make the stocks they use two part expanding foam as the core that never fully cures and will cause gas bubbles just under the skin when it gets hot, to compound this problem the outer is only built up around the grip area and very thin everywhere else.  This also causes issues when trying to modify the stock.
Manners and McMillan use a dense foam core with a uniform fiberglass outer that’s not affected by heat like the B&C stocks and when I say heat I’m talking about the riffle on a shooting mat on a hot summer day it starts to get little pimples that will go away after it cools back down. We have several B&C stocks between my shooting friends and I and they all do it to some extent.
Another option would be to keep an eye out for a good used McMillan or Manners stock on the Hide, I see them pop-up for just a bit over the cost of a new B&C stock once and awhile.       
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 11:21:10 AM »
McMillan stocks are good but the company was a PIA to work with, for me.  I run a Savage so at the time my choices were limited.  If I was running a Rem700 I would go with a Accuracy International Chassis System.  You can get them in long or short action configurations.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/396894/accuracy-international-chassis-system-aics-15-adjustable-stock-remington-700-long-action-300-winchester-magnum-green

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/661203/accuracy-international-chassis-system-aics-15-adjustable-stock-remington-700-short-action-green

http://www.impactguns.com/accuracy-international-aics-15-sa-green-aics15grnsa.aspx

http://store.accuracyinternationalsrt.com/categories/Chassis-Systems/

Of course the amount of you have money available dictates all kinds of things.  My mistake was getting in a hurry and not waiting to get what I really wanted. 
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 12:43:24 PM »
Quote from: birddog1989 on December 14, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
McMillan stocks are good but the company was a PIA to work with, for me.  I run a Savage so at the time my choices were limited.  If I was running a Rem700 I would go with a Accuracy International Chassis System.  You can get them in long or short action configurations.

McMillan is a giant pain in the A$$ to deal with and I have unfortunately had the displeasure of talking to the on several occasions, but they do make a bitch'in stock.

I also have had some AI chassis systems and think they are a good value when you factor in bottom metal and magazines to other quality stocks. 
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 01:49:27 PM »
Quote from: J Mack on December 14, 2011, 12:43:24 PM
I also have had some AI chassis systems and think they are a good value when you factor in bottom metal and magazines to other quality stocks. 

What did you think of the weight and ergonomics?  I have handled a few of their rifles and like them.  Didn't know if the chassis systems matched up.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 02:28:17 PM »
Quote from: birddog1989 on December 14, 2011, 01:49:27 PM
What did you think of the weight and ergonomics?  I have handled a few of their rifles and like them.  Didn't know if the chassis systems matched up.

The weight is about the same as my A3-5 with the fill I have but I prefer the grip on the A3-5 better.
I think the AICS is a better stock and I might try the different skins that have a pistol grip to see if they feel better than the thumb hole some day.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 07:58:13 PM »
I have handled some AI rifles in the past and I had mixed emotions about them.  Not to mention they are way out of my price range.  I am probably looking at $400 or less.  Thus is why I am looking at the B&C and HS.  I am a little concerned about the bubbling of the stock you are reporting on the B&C.  Is there any long term affects on the stock due to this?  Is there a difference in accuracy between an action dropped into a B&C and HS?  I have only felt a one B&C stock in my time and it felt fairly nice.  I do like the standard 700P stock from HS.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 08:14:45 PM »
Quote from: hessmanca on December 14, 2011, 07:58:13 PM
  I am a little concerned about the bubbling of the stock you are reporting on the B&C.  Is there any long term affects on the stock due to this?  


No long term affects, in fact you would really have to look for them to even notice them. It’s little blisters that form just under the skin of the stock and if you leave them alone they will go back down after the stock cools off.
 Certainly not a big deal for a working stock but could piss you off after you spend a week putting a custom mudflap girl camo paint job on one! 
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 06:11:23 AM »
Have any of you used the B&C Medalist A2?  It seems to have a nice vertical sytle grip and higher cheek rest than some of the others.  I also noticed that the forearm is flat on the bottom, does this effect the use of a Harris "S" bipod?  I have heard that they won't work on a flat forearm.  If so is there an adaptor or other bipod that would work on this stock?
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 08:01:20 AM »
I'm not sure what the A-2 B&C Medalist stock looks like and can't find it on their website.
I have built several rifles using their Medalist Remington Varmint/Tactical stock and it's by far my favorite B&C stock


No issues using a Harris S type on any of my flat bottom forend stocks.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 07:12:08 PM »
JMack~
That is the B&C I was looking at.  I was just using what Stockystock.com called it.  I am glad to hear that you enjoy this stock. It is on top of my future purchase list.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2011, 05:17:17 PM »
Manners T4A with Manners mini-chassis and you're done! I've been eyeing one for a little while now...
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 08:03:56 AM »

The bottom metal is $345 from Badger so that makes this a $180.00 stock

Manners T1 s/a 700 stock for sale. It is black and will come with Badger M5 installed with one five round mag. 525.00  OBO


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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2011, 08:54:07 AM »
JMack, that brings up another question I have had about my rifle set up...
I know that having a DM would be more convenient, but as a beginning long range shooter is it something that I should spend the money on at this time? Or spend that $300+ on ammo to learn my rifle?  Seems like the ammo may have more advantages to me than having a DM.  I do not reload so Factory ammo is what I will be shooting.  I can buy the B&C stock and 200 rounds of match ammo for the price of a used Manners or McMillan.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 09:00:08 AM »
Quote from: hessmanca on December 18, 2011, 08:54:07 AM
JMack, that brings up another question I have had about my rifle set up...
I know that having a DM would be more convenient, but as a beginning long range shooter is it something that I should spend the money on at this time? Or spend that $300+ on ammo to learn my rifle?  Seems like the ammo may have more advantages to me than having a DM.  I do not reload so Factory ammo is what I will be shooting.  I can buy the B&C stock and 200 rounds of match ammo for the price of a used Manners or McMillan.

I would buy the Manners stock with the bottom metal the come over to J Mack's house and load two hundred rounds of ammo on his press for the cost of components and have the best of both worlds.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 09:04:25 AM »
Forgot to add: one of the biggest advantages to the box magazine for me is the ability to load rounds longer to seat the bullets close to the lands.
Oh and chicks dig it!
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 09:06:39 AM »
That sounds like a deal!   ;D
And if I can get the boss to sign off on the funds I may just make that happen!

Well as long as DM has the Chick Factor, what more do we need......
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 11:08:30 AM »
Just bought a McMillan Hunters Edge for my 700, should have it next week. Weight is only 22oz and is made of graphite. Not painted and will consider leaving it like that or may Krylon an olive type color over it, will decide after seeing how it looks. Great quality, but spendy! Brad new they're about $575, getting it new from a PP for $450 who went a different route with his project.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 11:35:10 AM »
as long as your stock is floated and bedded and the gun is accurate now, keep it, no need to change unless you WANT to waste 400-600 dollars to LOOK cool.
Its all about the shooter and the load.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 11:44:54 AM »
It's not bedded now, just floated. The Edge will drop the weight about 6oz and give it a lot of stiffness the factory tupperware won't. Doesn't need it, just makes it mine  ;D

Is more than just looks considering most people probably wouldn't notice a difference just by glancing at it. Stiffer stocks generally lead to better consistency.
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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 05:35:56 PM »
I'm running a B&C A5 right now, to fit the MTU barrel I had to sand out the barrel channel, but otherwise it was a solid drop in fit. Has all the adjustability I was looking for in a stock.

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Re: Remington 700 aftermarket stocks
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 09:36:35 PM »
I finally popped on a stock.  I picked up a HS Precision Varmit/Tactical stock.  I then ordered up a Southwest Precision adjustable cheek piece.  I found a sweet deal on a HS DBM bottom metal and four 10 round mags, so those should be here next week.  I will get a photo posted of my baby once that arrives and I bolt it in!

So here is a run down...
Got a great quality and comfortable stock. Got the "chicks dig them" DBM system (this will make JMack happy!  ;D)
The only thing left to do is to get out and blast it.
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