Topic: Ghost Trigger Install

[dutch1911]

Installed a new Ghost Trigger today... WOW!
I have never been one to install aftermarket parts, however, I'm very happy I did.
Great feeling trigger.
Tomorrow... polishing  

[Jaggy13]

Is that a full trigger assembly?
I run the ghost 3.5 disconnector.
If that is a full kit does it replace the striker spring?
I've been trying to leave my striker spring as close to stock as possible for reliability and primer option reasons.
I'd be curriouse to see what the breaking point is. (I can run rifle primers for example but some guys have their stiker so light they have to run federals to get reliable ignition.)

[ekuo]

Unless I'm mistaken, that's a Gen 4 Glock in the pic. 

Are the trigger systems the same between Gen 3 and Gen 4? 

[Niner]

The trigger bar is different in the Gen 4 - it includes a "hump" on the FPS lever.  The hump is supposed to keep the lever centered to activate the FPS, but of course it results in more friction with the slide and a tougher pull.  Lots of people swap these out for the Gen 3 trigger bar which will work just fine.  I just grinded the hump down a little and polished it up and it works great.

Another difference is the trigger housing with ejector.  The Gen 4 is shaped differently to fit in the smaller grip of the Gen 4.  This results in a slightly different angle of the connector, which in turns results in a harder trigger pull than the Gen 3.  That is why the new Gen 4's come with the "dot" connector - to bring the trigger pull back down to approx Gen 3 levels.

You can still run aftermarket 3.5 connectors in the Gen 4 trigger housings.  Some people replace the trigger housing with a Gen 3 housing, but have to shave off a little of the plastic tail to get it to fit.  I haven't found that necessary.

The Ghost trigger in Dutch's picture is just the connector.  It is the Rocket which has the overtravel tab which has to be ground down and fitted to your particular gun.

As far as trigger springs and striker springs, I have run the 6 lb trigger spring (which decreases trigger pull) and the reduced power Striker Spring (which also reduces pull) with no light strikes - only 5,000 rounds though.  I use CCI primers.  If I start getting light strikes I will go back to stock striker spring.

[dutch1911]

Niner is wrong on a few counts.
The items installed was in fact the full kit.
Being a Glock armorer and having installed several for others I thought id give it a go for a while. The Glock trigger in the gen 4 does have some differences. However the trigger pull weight new is nearly identical to that of the 3 and 3.5 RTF... Some folks allow their personal illusions get in the way.
Also I would not recommend the said grinding down of specific parts in your Glock. They're there for a reason... Apparently some folks know more than Glock.
This isn't a carry gun for me. I carry a real gun... So I can have a little fun with this. But safety and liability are always at the front. So grinding and shaving are not the order of the day.

Dutch

[Niner]

Sorry Dutch, my mistake.  I just saw the Ghost connector package in your picture and assumed that was all you installed.  My apologies for assuming erroneously.  I thought I would go ahead and answer ekuo's question about the differences in the triggers between the Gen 3 and Gen 4 since you hadn't replied that day.

I too am a Glock armorer and have been one for quite some time.  The differences I noted about the trigger bar and trigger housing with ejector are exactly right (you can check the part numbers).  And the trigger pull weights on the first Gen 4's were higher than the Gen 3's.  This is because the angle on the connector is steeper and the aforementioned hump on the trigger bar.  That is why the "dot" connector was eventually produced.

I have a Gen 2, 7 Gen 3's including a couple of RTF2's, and a Gen 4 in 9mm (in addition to several other Glocks).  I also have a Lyman trigger pull guage and know how to use it.  I provide this information so that you know I not just an internet commando re-spouting garbage I have heard.  You can also check with Glock about the "." connector now being installed on new builds - this is to bring the trigger pull back in line with the Gen 3's.

I also don't recommend people grinding on their Glocks if they aren't qualified.  No, I don't believe I know more than Glock.  But guns have been getting modified  for years - just ask the 1911 guys.  I have enough guns to use one for testing when I hear what other people are doing to see how it works.  Surely you don't believe all the competition guys are running stock Glocks?

If you are interested, I have Glocks set up with a lot of the different aftermarket connectors, and some with reduced power striker springs and some with competition trigger springs if you want to feel the differences.  This offer is open to anyone else thinking of modifying their Glock too.

[tgibson]

Surely you don't believe all the competition guys are running stock Glocks?

WHAT?!?  Sevigny and Vogle aren't running stock glocks?!?   They said they were shooting production division!!
Adios
TG

[Nealio]

I carry a real gun...

Sweet, another Tanfoglio shooter!

[dutch1911]

No worries at all!
My Gen 4 is new, only a month or so old.  Compared to a new gen 3 the trigger pull variance was within a half pound every time.
I typically do some polishing myself on the factory parts... mirror polish does a lot of cleaning up on the triggers.  The reduction in creep on the trigger bar has made me a believer in Ghost.

Cheers...

Oh... and Toodles!

Dutch