Topic: Walmart selling 5.56!

[mopeman440]

Found out a while ago that Walmart was going to be getting this ammo, checked with them last weekend and they said it was on it's way. The old lady needed some stuff there last night, so i figured I'd tag along and see if it was in, well it was, it just came on the truck. After doing some checking this is Federal govt contract over run, not the "not for duty use" stuff that a lot of places have. It's not the best price, but competitive with all the on line stores at $149 per can. The rounds are loaded on 10rd strippers, 3 strippers in the cardboard, and a spoon is included too. I picked up two cans that will put into the SHTF stash.

[mopeman440]

 SKU number is 02946556318

[charlie76]

Which walmart?

[mopeman440]

I got these at the MH wally world, but if you take the sku to any store, they will be able to tell you if they are going to get it, that's what I did.

[Bill, Idaho]

I am under the impression the "X" indicates a rejected lot, for a number of reasons. Other reputable forums mention steering clear of any "X" marked ammo.  It could be be inconsistent accuracy for various reason, minor visual problems, etc, but sub-standard for that manufacturers specs, yet still "good enough" to sell. 
Most manufacturers offer their items with different levels of quality. Back in the 70's when I worked at a gun shop in Illinois, we got Remington 870s in with a coded number on the factory invoice. We got the chance to check one against a receipt from a competitor's store (about the same as a "Walmart"). A dealer rep told us how to decipher the two groups of numbers to tell who was getting the higher quality guns.   Whenever someone brought in an 870 to fix (admittedly a rare occassion) we got to where we could tell where they bought it.  The other store could undercut our prices, and we soon figured out why.
   The local beef processing plant does the same, selling hamburgers to the local restaurants according to what the quality standard each restaurant demands.  I used to work at the local sugar factory for 25 years, the same there as well.
   Ammo is certainly sold under the same practices.  The military demands and gets much better quality than China-Mart.
   Think about it...... I can't hardly think of anything China Mart sells that's top of the line. That store in particular is probably the most cut-throat competitive store around.  Ammo is going to be part of that.
     

[ID Tactical]

Found the answer on "The Gun Zone"...

http://www.thegunzone.com/556xm.html

[Grumblecakes]

btw those are marked xm855 which is steel tipped. for those that dont know, they will mess up plate targets

[FSTDoc]

This looks to me like a good deal on practice ammo.

Speaking of "SHTF". I used to work with a French-Canadian nurse who thought the English phrase, "Sh*t hits the Fan", was "Sh*t hits the Fence"! So, whenever I see "SHTF", I think 'fence'.
Anyway, I would store bonded soft points for the 'fence', not ball ammo.

[Idaho_Gun_Nut]

btw those are marked xm855 which is steel tipped. for those that dont know, they will mess up plate targets

Good for range ammo or if you are going up against zombies wearing kevlar helmets, otherwise as shown in Somalia in '93... the green tipped steel core ammo just makes neat little holes in the bad guys and doesn't cause enough trauma to put them down effectively without having to dump a whole mag into them.

[Evergreen]

Steel Tip makes for good plinking ammo..  I think it functions better in my 1:7 twist barrel of my AR then the XM193, based on the bullet weight.  I'm not a ballistic expert, but with all other factors being equal in the Federal ammo, would you prefer to shoot 55gr XM193 or 62gr XM855 for plinking in an AR with 1:7 twist rate?  I have always kept my 193 for storage and use the 855 as the plinker.  I was thinking the heavier is more optimize for the tighter twist rate.  I could be wrong, but I heard some issues with shooting lighter weight bullets out of shorter twist barrels like the LMT.  I heard the 55gr XM193 ammo is more optimized for rifles with barrel twists that are 1:9 or higher.

For zombies, I like Hornady 72gr HP rounds.. Are these not good enough?? I can always upgrade to .50 cal BMG, in zombie scenarios..  You know in the movies, people always find a spare one with a cache of ammo laying around  

[Idaho_Gun_Nut]

Steel Tip makes for good plinking ammo..  I think it functions better in my 1:7 twist barrel of my AR then the XM193, based on the bullet weight.  I'm not a ballistic expert, but with all other factors being equal in the Federal ammo, would you prefer to shoot 55gr XM193 or 62gr XM855 for plinking in an AR with 1:7 twist rate?  I have always kept my 193 for storage and use the 855 as the plinker.  I was thinking the heavier is more optimize for the tighter twist rate.  I could be wrong, but I heard some issues with shooting lighter weight bullets out of shorter twist barrels like the LMT.  I heard the 55gr XM193 ammo is more optimized for rifles with barrel twists that are 1:9 or higher.

For zombies, I like Hornady 72gr HP rounds.. Are these not good enough?? I can always upgrade to .50 cal BMG, in zombie scenarios..  You know in the movies, people always find a spare one with a cache of ammo laying around 

The 62gr Green tips stabilize well out of 1/7 twist barrels.  If you have a 1/12 twist you'd want to go with the 55gr loads.  In between you will need to experiement to see what your particular barrel likes.  The 1/8 or 1/9 are the happy medium and give decent performance for any load.

Yeah I like the way you think... 72gr HP rounds will do nicely on Zombies... big ol cavities where their brains use to be!  The only problem with using a .50 on Zombies is you can't carry enough ammo, but if you can line up about a dozen or so in a straight row you can get a whole bunch with one shot!

[Momma Sheepdog]

who will blow up their 223 carbine first with this stuff?

[luvmy45]

who will blow up their 223 carbine first with this stuff?

You heard something we haven't? I haven't seen any reports of rifles blowing up using this ammo, not to say there isn't, but your statement, as an Ammo Manufacturer gave me pause.

[Nomad]

[quote author=Momma Sheepdog who will blow up their 223 carbine first with this stuff?

 Information on this subject would be nice. Have thought of buying some..... 

[tgibson]

Might not be a bad idea to see if Sheepdog would match that price if someone organized a group buy.  I know he is putting out quality ammo.
Adios,
TG

[Bill, Idaho]

Ok, I'll shamelessly plug Sheepdog ammo--  our agency shoots tons of it, more accurately pallets upon pallets of it, for several years, and have NEVER had any issues.  They go bang every time and punch holes as close as the rifle will allow.  Operator headspace is always the issue if there are any problems, such as grouping.   
    Good stuff, we are lucky to have them close.  Even if it would cost a little more, the benefits by far outweigh the negatives. And your money is staying not only in the US, it's staying in the valley!
   
 Disclaimer: No, Travis did not pay me, I don't get favors, all I do is shoot a bunch of his ammo.  Here's your chance to deny China-mart the chance to take some of our money overseas.

[Grumblecakes]

Ok, I'll shamelessly plug Sheepdog ammo--  our agency shoots tons of it, more accurately pallets upon pallets of it, for several years, and have NEVER had any issues.  They go bang every time and punch holes as close as the rifle will allow.  Operator headspace is always the issue if there are any problems, such as grouping.   
    Good stuff, we are lucky to have them close.  Even if it would cost a little more, the benefits by far outweigh the negatives. And your money is staying not only in the US, it's staying in the valley!
   
 Disclaimer: No, Travis did not pay me, I don't get favors, all I do is shoot a bunch of his ammo.  Here's your chance to deny China-mart the chance to take some of our money overseas.

to nit pick alittle, its American made ammo being sold by an American company....

[egress81]

I think by saying ".223 carbine" she means who is gonna be the first to shoot 5.56 out of a .223 and blow it up.

just my interpretation take it for whats its worth.

[Nomad]

 Maybe this is what we're talking about as for use.......
 Ammo is still made in the USA and for the money it is a good deal......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington