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CC in Bronco Stadium
« on: October 22, 2011, 09:22:38 AM »
Anybody carry to a Boise State game? Or even keep a knife on them? I'm thinking since it's a university it's a no go...
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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 09:43:55 AM »
I haven't been to bronco stadium but any other big college game I've gone to they had metal detecters, so I would say no.
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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 09:52:47 AM »
I can tell you that I have not seen any metal detectors at the stadium, and I haven't noticed any pat downs.

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011, 10:17:31 AM »
Worse case if you get caught, you'll be asked to leave since it is in violation of BSU policy. If you refuse they'll arrest you and charge you with trespassing. If you are a student, they can initiate disciplinary actions for violating university conduct policies.

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 12:04:00 PM »
Worse case if you get caught, you'll be asked to leave since it is in violation of BSU policy. If you refuse they'll arrest you and charge you with trespassing. If you are a student, they can initiate disciplinary actions for violating university conduct policies.

Correct, BSU is not a prohibited location by law, they just have policies against it.  If you don't work for them or go to school there, they have no recourse except to ask you to leave.  If you're doing it right, they'll never be able to tell whether or not you're in violation of said policy unless you were to need it.

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 02:52:57 PM »
Never seen a metal detector at the stadium. I have seen a patdown, but that was in the stadium after a guy snatched a lady's wallet out of her purse (Protip for snatchers: a ladies' wallet is way too big to conceal). Never seen anything like that at the entrances.

They do search bags though.

BSU's current "firearms/weapons policy:"

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II.   Prohibition
The possession, wearing, carrying, transporting, or use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, incendiary device, or explosive is strictly forbidden on university owned or controlled premises or vehicles. This prohibition also extends to any person who may have acquired a government-issued permit or license[un-freakin-believable!]. Violation of this regulation will result in disciplinary action and sanctions up to and including expulsion, in the case of students, or dismissal from employment, in the case of faculty and staff, or charges of trespass in the case of the public.
III.   Exceptions to the Prohibition The following firearms are excluded from this policy:
1. A firearm in the possession of a full-time sworn peace officer. Among those not included in this exception are reserve officers, part-time employees, and private security guards;
2. A firearm in the possession of a person who has received prior written authorization from the Director of Campus Security;
3.   Members of the ROTC training program, when so directed by a provision of the program.

Emphases are mine.

The phrase 'dangerous weapon' has at least once been interpreted to include pocket knives, but that was awhile back (and may be apocryphal). For what it's worth, the location with the highest concentration of people carrying knives I've ever seen aside from a cutlery fair is in the research labs in the BSU biology department.
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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011, 10:36:34 PM »
As a cadet in the BSU RTC program I can tell you that we don't ever handle firearms on campus. The Cadre make us hide our paintball markers in rucksacks so as "not to excite the natives", as it were. The drill rifles I don't think count since they are just slabs of walnut and metal now, which is a very unfortunate thing to do to such a beautiful rifle :(

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2011, 11:04:32 PM »
having had worked on campus for 7 years i will weigh in. BSU will do what ever the fuck it likes. They wont care about a pocket knife if your COMPLETELY sober even the hint of suspicion and you will get either kicked off campus or trespassed.  A gun will probably get you trespassed, you'll probably be forced to leave (by the cops) and trespassed at the same time. BSU does not give a fuck, even if it is made legal they will still find a way to trespass you for having a weapon. The muslim guy that runs the sub during the day will have people trespassed for smoking on the side walk near the intersection (was funny shit the day he tried to trespass a guardsman for smoking out there though). BSU, especially the sub's policy is to just trespass people. Right or wrong BSU will also stand behind whoever makes the decision too so dont expect to gain any ground with any type of threat because unless your donating alot of money each year they will not give a damn about your side.

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 08:55:01 AM »
Never seen a metal detector at the stadium. I have seen a patdown...

They do search bags though.

Worse case if you get caught, you'll be asked to leave since it is in violation of BSU policy. If you refuse they'll arrest you and charge you with trespassing. If you are a student, they can initiate disciplinary actions for violating university conduct policies.

This is accurate from my understanding.  I would add that employees at the university would almost certainly be terminated, but I don't know if that's limited to "on the job" hours or if it extends to off hours too.  Those in charge of security and the policy that this pertains to have stated zero tolerance.  I have never had an issue carrying a pocket knife.
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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2011, 02:07:32 PM »
Well I carry on my belt my Buck 110 folder and no one has mentioned anything.

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 09:44:08 AM »
Since when do public universities, funded by our tax dollars have any right to trample on our 2nd Amendment rights?  They are not a private institution and should have no authority to circumvent the laws of our country.  Next, the department in charge of sidewalks, parks and other government funded agencies will say they won't permit guns on their jurisdiction.  Soon, we won't be allowed to carry anywhere, because this or that agency or governing body says guns are not allowed.

I say we fight back and protest the Bolshevism that these universities are promoting and illegally enforcing on American citizens.  My feeling is if enough people are prepared to stand up, things can change.  Maybe, an open-carry day at the university? 

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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 09:57:36 AM »
I was at the Air Force game, btw THE FLY OVER BY THE JETS WAS F'ING UNBELIEVABLE- GOT A TEAR IN MY EYE and can't imagine how the enemy feels when those boys mean business, I would shiz my pants off, anyways I was neither frisked nor walked through a metal detector.
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Re: CC in Bronco Stadium
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 10:13:10 AM »
Turns out the state legislator gave BSU and other universities in Idaho the authority to control firearms on their campuses? But at the same time the state constitution makes the claim that
"Section 11. Right to keep and bear arms. The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged"

So according to that section, BSU's policy is unconstitutional.

A few friends of mine were actually discussing an empty holster day where we go about our days but whilst wearing our holsters to show our support for our rights. Seeing as how we are all students, we can't afford to be expelled. I am just sick of these groups working on campus claiming to represent the student body and say that "most BSU students" don't want guns on campus. A claim made recently by the "school paper", The Arbiter, after speaking to a whole 10 students, 9 of which were anti gun. The 1 person for 2nd Amendment rights seemed to be glossed over in the article.