Topic: Idaho CHL Questions

[Evergreen]

I am going to be moving to Idaho in a couple weeks.  Currently, I have an Oregon CHL, Washington CHL and a Utah CFP.  My Oregon is the only in-state permit I have and I will probably be losing it because the Hood River Sheriff I hear will not transfer a permit out-of-state.  Anyway, I am assuming that my Washington and Utah permits will not be valid in Idaho once I become a resident, since they probably want the money for me to obtain a local permit.  What I would like to know is what is required of me if I want to obtain an Idaho CHL?  How long of a process is it?  How long will my out-of-state Washington/Utah permits be valid once I move to Idaho?  I know my out-of-state permits are valid right now as a non-resident.  As far as classes, I have taken the Utah and Oregon CHL classes.  Also, I have taken an 8 hour Defensive Handgun I class at the Oregon Firearms Academy (OFA) and completed with the gold level.   

Am I correct, that my out-of-state permits are not valid in Idaho when I become a resident?  How long can I expect to wait for the permit and how much does it cost?  Can I continue to carry my pistol with me concealed once I move to Idaho, assuming I have valid out-of-state permits?  My fear is, that once I move there I won't be able to carry my gun with me.  It would be strange going any period of time without my firearms as I have carried my gun with me without any limitation for the last 3 years.  I'd like to verify though that I am legal and not breaking any laws.

[AR10ER]

I am going to be moving to Idaho in a couple weeks.  Currently, I have an Oregon CHL, Washington CHL and a Utah CFP.  My Oregon is the only in-state permit I have and I will probably be losing it because the Hood River Sheriff I hear will not transfer a permit out-of-state.  Anyway, I am assuming that my Washington and Utah permits will not be valid in Idaho once I become a resident, since they probably want the money for me to obtain a local permit.  What I would like to know is what is required of me if I want to obtain an Idaho CHL?  How long of a process is it?  How long will my out-of-state Washington/Utah permits be valid once I move to Idaho?  I know my out-of-state permits are valid right now as a non-resident.  As far as classes, I have taken the Utah and Oregon CHL classes.  Also, I have taken an 8 hour Defensive Handgun I class at the Oregon Firearms Academy (OFA) and completed with the gold level.   

Am I correct, that my out-of-state permits are not valid in Idaho when I become a resident?  How long can I expect to wait for the permit and how much does it cost?  Can I continue to carry my pistol with me concealed once I move to Idaho, assuming I have valid out-of-state permits?  My fear is, that once I move there I won't be able to carry my gun with me.  It would be strange going any period of time without my firearms as I have carried my gun with me without any limitation for the last 3 years.  I'd like to verify though that I am legal and not breaking any laws.

Your Utah and Washington will still be good here. If you have the paperwork for the classes you took, you may be able to use that to get one here, I am not sure on that. I do know, that Boise county only requires a military back ground to get it.

[RGinIdaho]

My Oregon is the only in-state permit I have and I will probably be losing it because the Hood River Sheriff I hear will not transfer a permit out-of-state.

Call Sheriff Palmer in John Day then swing by there on the way over to Idaho. I believe that you will find satisfaction. You might want to travel to OR and having an OR non-resident is pretty handy. I've heard you can accomplish the same thing in Umatilla Co but I have no first hand knowledge for that one.

[Shade OGrey]

Technically, Idaho issues a Concealed WEAPONS Permit, so theoretically any weapon you can conceal upon your person would be covered under the permit.
Pistols, dirks, daggers, and Bowies are specifically cited in the statute, but again one could make the argument that any weapon would be covered.
Although I am not sure how far one would get trying to argue that 20 sticks of 40% dynamite strapped to your chest counts as a weapon. But I would guess about twenty years.

[Grumblecakes]

here is how it has worked for me in Montana so far Idaho maybe different but i wouldn't always count on it. I asked multiple people on several occasions both on the phone and in person at the sheriffs office here. The jist of it was as long as im NOT a resident my permit would be recognized more or less without hassle. Once i established residency, and i did, my permit would need replaced with a valid Montana one.

As far as how long it takes, i have no idea it was less than 90 days for me. they sent the notification card to the wrong address ( i have bad hand writing so i understand), and i went in person to ask about it. if i remember right the date on the card they had was like 30 or so days. Plenty of time to get it before residency is established and it could be one less problem down the road.

[Bill, Idaho]

To be more accurate..........not "any" weapon in Idaho. Class III stuff is a no-no, and BTW, shotguns and rifles are exempt, provided they meet legal length requirements. So, ipso facto..you can carry a minimum length AR  or shotgun (26" overall length with at least an 18" barrel) under your coat, if you so desire-without a CCW permit (Unless a specific city or county code prohibits it.)
Most importantly though, make sure you read the entire code. There are a few glitches that might jam you up. 
     

[kevin42]

To be more accurate..........not "any" weapon in Idaho. Class III stuff is a no-no, and BTW, shotguns and rifles are exempt, provided they meet legal length requirements. So, ipso facto..you can carry a minimum length AR  or shotgun (26" overall length with at least an 18" barrel) under your coat, if you so desire-without a CCW permit (Unless a specific city or county code prohibits it.)
Most importantly though, make sure you read the entire code. There are a few glitches that might jam you up. 
     

I've never heard that you can't carry class III weapons with a CCW. I don't see anything in the statute that mentions it. Are you sure about that?

BTW, I'm not saying it is a smart thing to do -- I just didn't think there is anything in Idaho law that prohibits it. Can you point me to a source on that?

[ponder]

To be more accurate..........not "any" weapon in Idaho. Class III stuff is a no-no, and BTW, shotguns and rifles are exempt, provided they meet legal length requirements. So, ipso facto..you can carry a minimum length AR  or shotgun (26" overall length with at least an 18" barrel) under your coat, if you so desire-without a CCW permit (Unless a specific city or county code prohibits it.)
Most importantly though, make sure you read the entire code. There are a few glitches that might jam you up. 

This statement probably calls for some references to the code you are refering to.  Please list the code and its source. 

[Evergreen]

There is so much good information being said here  ..  However, some of the questions that are more important to me, which I have asked are still unanswered.

Here are a few, I am hoping I can get the answer to:
1. How long will my out-of-state Utah/Washington permits be valid in Idaho while I wait for my Idaho CHL?
2. How much does it cost for Idaho CHL and what is the estimated wait time?  The website says under 90 days.. Gosh, I sure hope I don't have to wait 3 months for my CHL.
3. Is there any chance that I risk not being able to carry my gun during the waiting period?  Will my out of state permits be valid while I wait for my Idaho CHL to come to me?

I think somebody else answered the question about the class requirements with the CHL.  Yes, I have all the paperwork/certificates from the various firearm classes I have attended, that is including my 8-hour defensive handgun OFA course, Utah CFP and Oregon CHL courses.

I want to say I think it is cool that I am allowed to conceal an AR-15 in Idaho.  I guess I might need a bigger holster though.  


I'm glad to hear from people about obtaining the out-of-state Oregon CHL.  That is very useful information.  Is that Sheriff Parker or Palmer?  I get the names mixed up.  I thought Sheriff Palmer of Grant County was the guy issuing all the permits to out-of-staters.  I know Grant County is a bit out of the way.   I would like to know any counties that are more on the way to Idaho who could issue the permit.  It would be nice if I could go to Umatilla County to get the permit instead.  Unfortunately, I will be bringing my moving truck with me, so going to Grant County in my U-Haul won't really be an option.  I will obviously have to fly or drive back to Oregon to get the permit.  What a pain!   I know Sheriff Rob Gordon gave me an out-of-state WA county Oregon CHL back when I was living in the Vancouver, WA area.  However, I'm not sure if he would be so nice if I was living in Idaho.

[han_cholo]

Evergreen-

Call the Ada Sheriff Concealed Weapon Unit @ 208-577-3112 sometime during the week, I'm sure they'll be able to answer most of your questions.

Link to their website: http://www.adasheriff.org/RecordsReports/Licenses/ConcealedWeapons.aspx

[Bill, Idaho]

My bad, I got the big book out and discovered I got confused with 18-3302H, where the class III is described.  However, as I think about it, if one commits a crime carrying a class III with their legal CCW from Idaho, can they then be prosecuted federally-because the permit to own it is federal?
Anyway, I apologize for the confusion.


(Let ye who sins not cast the first stone.....)

[kevin42]

My bad, I got the big book out and discovered I got confused with 18-3302H, where the class III is described.  However, as I think about it, if one commits a crime carrying a class III with their legal CCW from Idaho, can they then be prosecuted federally-because the permit to own it is federal?

Committing any crime with a class III weapon is asking for a whole lot of trouble. If I remember correctly using a firearm with a suppressor while committing a crime adds a mandatory 30 years sentence.

Someday I want a suppressed SBR based on the GSG5 to tuck under my coat though. 

[Shade OGrey]

Don't forget that Idaho is also an open carry state. You can legally carry without a permit as long as it is not concealed any place that you can legally carry concealed.
Also, a permit is only needed to carry concealed within the confines of a city or township (also, IIRC, mining and railroad property). Private property exempt, with owners permission of course.

[popsgunner]

Answers:
your out of state permit is good, period until you give it up, temp or not.
our students tell us that the whole process that costs 65.00 takes 3-5 weeks.
Again, IMHO, basic common sense applies, carry your gun concealed, better to be judged by twelve........
Forget the class III crap, that stuff is just for fun and for SHTF stuff.
but I still think you should visit Alpha assswipes and ask them about Glocks , just for the entertainment factor.....I'm an a..hole like that.
Pops

[Idaho_Gun_Nut]

When you apply for your Idaho permit, you'll need to bring either a DD214 or an NRA safety training certificate to show proof of fire arms training.  Otherwise you'll need to take the safety class.  Seeing that you already have out of state permits, I'm sure you have at least one certificate to provide as proof.  They will not accept your out of state permit as proof of training, been there and tried that myself.

Don't be afraid to open carry, no one is going to give you any funny looks... it's IDAHO!  There's nothing like the freedom of open carry, I do miss that!

[RGinIdaho]

Is that Sheriff Parker or Palmer?  I get the names mixed up.  I thought Sheriff Palmer of Grant County was the guy issuing all the permits to out-of-staters. 

I'll have to edit my post. It was Palmer that issued mine.