Topic: Issues with a Tactical Solutions Suppressor

[fastfire]

Has anyone have any problems with a Tactical Solutions Cascade-MC suppressor?

I got mine 2 years ago, after three months while cleaning it found there were 3 loose baffels. I called Tactical Solutions they said to bring it in.
I live 40 miles from there.
They said that was the first time that had ever happened and replaced the baffel stack.
Within 2 weeks there were 4 loose baffels. I took it back to them and said they need to doubble pin each baffel, at that time they attched each baffel with a pin on 1 side and used aircraft epoxy to hold it in. They took a week said it was done, they put two pins in each baffle and epoxyed them.
3 months later I was unscrewing it from the barrel when the stainless steel threads came off on the barrel, they also epoxy the SS threads in the aluminum baffel stack. They fixed that within a week.
Last month I found more loose baffels, took it back, thay said that was the last time they would replace anything for the Cascade-MC suppressor as they were comming out with a new replacement for that model.
Basically, they said I would have to buy another one if I had any more problems because they would not make those parts any more.
After the second time I took it back with loose baffels I said I was cleaning it with a solution of 50/50 Hydrogen peroxide and vinagar.
They said to clean it with regular cleaning solvents.
So I now clean with a wire brush and an o-ring pick, no liquids.
Tonite I found another loose baffel, I will call them tomarrow.
If they tell me I'm SOL THE WORLD WILL KNOW ABOUT THERE CUSTOMER SERVICE

[No-One]

  I can't imagine anyone ever having problems with Tac Sol . They seem really receptive to feedback and their sole purpose in life seems to be to make a quality product worthy of me forking over a bunch of cash 

[J Mack]

After the second time I took it back with loose baffles I said I was cleaning it with a solution of 50/50 Hydrogen peroxide and vinegar.

The core body itself is aluminum and a 50/50 peroxide/vinegar will change it dimensionally and could be a factor with the baffles coming lose.
Ask for Keith when you go down there, he has always done me right and hopefully he can help you find a solution to your issues.

[fastfire]

Since the last time I had the baffel stack replaced I have only cleaned with a brass wire brush and o-ring pick, no chemicals. The problem I think no one should be using epoxy on a suppressor because what is happening is the epoxy is falling out leaving loose baffels.The expansion rate for titanium and aluminum I believe are quite different as the suppressor heats up and cools down causing the epoxy to crack.

[J Mack]

The expansion rate for titanium and aluminum I believe are quite different as the suppressor heats up and cools down causing the epoxy to crack.

I agree that you should not press fit  materials with a different expansion rate in a suppressor and pins/epoxy  would not be my first choice for a reliable solution but you own a tax stamp that belongs one of their cans and hopefully they will work with you to come up with a permanent fix.
I've read that other companies can rebuild your core or replace your core with a different design but I'm not 100% sure on all the legalizes. If I find the site again I will forward it to you.
Good luck!         

[fastfire]

I agree that you should not press fit  materials with a different expansion rate in a suppressor and pins/epoxy  would not be my first choice for a reliable solution but you own a tax stamp that belongs one of their cans and hopefully they will work with you to come up with a permanent fix.
I've read that other companies can rebuild your core or replace your core with a different design but I'm not 100% sure on all the legalizes. If I find the site again I will forward it to you.
Good luck!        

Thanks

I don't think the baffels are press fitted because when the epoxy falls out the baffels are loose.

[Idaho_Gun_Nut]

You can get a new baffel stack made for it from most any other suppressor mfg.  You can even get a new tube made to replace the old one so you don't have to pay for another tax stamp.  An 07/SOT can destroy your old tube and assign your SN to the new tube.  It would be best if Tac/Sol did it as it's their name on the can.

[fastfire]

Tactical Solutions has had this problem for 2 years and haven't changed it to resolve the issues, they need to replace the baffel stack with one that does not have these problems(no epoxy).

[Deadheadmatt]

So what did you find out from calling them today?

Matt

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I left 2 messages with no return calls

[broncovan]

You can get a new baffel stack made for it from most any other suppressor mfg.  You can even get a new tube made to replace the old one so you don't have to pay for another tax stamp.  An 07/SOT can destroy your old tube and assign your SN to the new tube.  It would be best if Tac/Sol did it as it's their name on the can.

You sure about that?  Wasn't there a big lawsuit by Gemtech against someone doing this very thing and the ATF ruled that it was a new suppressor if the tube was replaced regardless of the Ser#??

[fastfire]

You sure about that?  Wasn't there a big lawsuit by Gemtech against someone doing this very thing and the ATF ruled that it was a new suppressor if the tube was replaced regardless of the Ser#??

They have replaced my baffel stack a couple of times now.
The serial # is on the cover for the baffel stack.
If I should get a bullet strike and render the cover unuseable I would have to go through the tax stamp process all over again.

[Idaho_Gun_Nut]

You sure about that?  Wasn't there a big lawsuit by Gemtech against someone doing this very thing and the ATF ruled that it was a new suppressor if the tube was replaced regardless of the Ser#??

You could be correct.  It's been a while now but this discusion has come up on other boards and I recalled an SOT stating this information.  I know there is no issue with having the baffels replaced, it just needs to be done by an 07/SOT as you can't have a spare set of baffels or you can get nailed for having an unregistered suppressor. 

[fastfire]

They called today to bring it in, if it is a warranty issue it will be fixed

[kaen3e]

Idaho gun nut.  A s.o.t or original manufacturer CAN NOT destroy and remark another tube or firearm.  You are constructing a new device and tax must be paid. A suppressor also CAN NOT be shortened to fix a damaged end.  Both are a great way to go to jail or spend a lot of money fighting with the ATF.  Please don't take my word for it, look it up..