Author Topic: Annealing??  (Read 321 times)

Online luvmy45

  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2692
    • My shooting and reloading web
Annealing??
« on: March 24, 2011, 11:36:52 AM »
You guys got me thinking after reading about the annealing machines...

I get a flyer every now and then in my reloads... and I'm on my 4th and 5th times reloading these cases, would neck tension cause a big flyer. I'm not shooting groups, just steel, at long range, and I'll get 4 or 5 hits on steel, and then a unexplained miss... usually after I get on target I can keep hitting targets, and to have a wild flyer has me baffled. So I'm thinking, my cases are still in good shape but if neck tension is uneven that could explain the flyers.

Thoughts?
Brian - W1CDP
idpa.kohagen.com

My Gun Club: www.parmarng.org
My Video's: http://www.youtube.com/user/luvmy45

Offline Grumblecakes

  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 575
Re: Annealing??
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 12:03:03 PM »
I would think it would affect tension. Not being the greatest shot I couldn't tell you for sure from my own experience. I anneal when I trim so about every 4-5 firings. I do notice they seat better and have less deviation in oal. How much it affects I'm uncertain. If it's significantly off I would look at other factors.

Offline J Mack

  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (9)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1700
  • The beatings will continue until morale improves.
    • 1.5 million people attended the inauguration, and only 20 missed worked!!!
Re: Annealing??
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 12:04:07 PM »
The short answer is yes.
Neck tension will play a roll in consistency or lack of.

This guy has some info on his site and will explain it better than I.
Link: http://www.annealingmachines.com/about_annealing
I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.-- Winston Churchill
    I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. is down! I repeat, we have no I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.

Offline carharttfarmer

  • Trade Count: (15)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 942
Re: Annealing??
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 01:45:20 PM »
just how big of a target are you missing ? neck tension can make a differnce but not a great differnce

Offline J Mack

  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (9)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1700
  • The beatings will continue until morale improves.
    • 1.5 million people attended the inauguration, and only 20 missed worked!!!
Re: Annealing??
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 08:22:02 AM »
More info on some different methods to anneal brass.

http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html 
I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.-- Winston Churchill
    I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. is down! I repeat, we have no I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.

Online luvmy45

  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2692
    • My shooting and reloading web
Re: Annealing??
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 09:57:05 AM »
Good info, this annealing thing looks like something to add to toolbox, but really is only a once a year, maybe once every 2 year process that I would do... that being the case a shared annealing tool may be what's needed.

The last time I had some flyers was at the winter LRTR... last stage was a 8" plate at 800yards or so... got on target with a little wind, and shots were all over the place, up until that point, I was hitting just fine...

Anyway, just something else to add to the consistency of my loads. Great info, thanks!
Brian - W1CDP
idpa.kohagen.com

My Gun Club: www.parmarng.org
My Video's: http://www.youtube.com/user/luvmy45

Offline RGinIdaho

  • Site Supporter
  • Trade Count: (14)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 861
Re: Annealing??
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 03:06:09 PM »
I've done some annealing in the past. No elaborate machine just a torch and pan of water. I was able to salvage cases from lots that were showing signs of work hardening. In the end, it was just as efficient to toss the brass and obtain new.
Some people are like Slinkies - not really good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.