Topic: Patrol Shoot at Parma R&G

[9Shooter]

parmarng.org must be getting hammered.  I haven't been able to get in all morning to look at the pics.

[EDGE]

They just keep getting better and better every year!!!

Excellent course of fire desing RG!

[luvmy45]

Scores are making their way to me and I'll get them posted when I get them.

Not sure what's with the parma site... I've been on and off all day, between tiling my bathroom, haven't noticed any issues, I'll check the log. Thanks for the heads up.

[9Shooter]

Not sure what's with the parma site... I've been on and off all day, between tiling my bathroom, haven't noticed any issues, I'll check the log. Thanks for the heads up.

Worked from home so maybe it was just something from work.  Could have been fine all day I suppose.

[sniper3317]

They were in the debrief.If you left early I guess you missed out.

[luvmy45]

Scores and commentary are up on the parma site now.

www.parmarng.org

Great shoot!

[Scarecrow]

Good CoF for sure.  Thanks to the RO's for putting it together and keeping us safe and the Friday Setup Crew for getting targets set up.  It was the best shooting event I have ever participated in.

[Nomad]

Patrol Shoot Scores and commentary.

 

First place team:               Aaron Goodfellow                           20 Minutes 38 Seconds.                Raw time             19.48

                                                Bruce Bates       

                                                Rocky Mink

                                                Devin Jones

                                                Jon Koopman

                                                Neill Goodfellow

 

Second Place Team         Travis Gibson                                     21 Minutes 12 Seconds                  Raw Time            19.32

                                                Raul Garcia

                                                Jim Sullivan

                                                Brian Kohagen

                                                Craig Hixson

                                                Chris Lowry

 

Third Place Team              Ralph Grieninger                              21 Minutes 14 Seconds                  Raw Time            19.24

                                                Jim Hicks

                                                Jim Grossel

                                                Eric Brown

                                                Tristan Burkhardt

                                                John

 

Fourth Place Team          Travis Johnson                                  23 Minutes 08 Seconds                  Raw Time            19.28

                                                Forest Odgers

                                                Cody Scheiting

                                                Robert King

                                                Robert Martin

                                                Ralph Grienger

 

Fifth Place Team               Matt Hinrichs                                     30 Minutes 3 seconds                    Raw Time            28.16

                                                Chris Mace

                                                Alex Clarke

                                                Evan Clarke

                                                Drew Clarke

                                                Mike Clarke

 

Sixth Place Team              Steve Leonard                                   35 Minutes 3 seconds                    Raw Time            25.43

                                                Rocky Mink

                                                Tyler Leonard

                                                Trent Moulton

                                                Devin Jones

                                                Matt Goodfellow

 

 

After the November Patrol Shoot, Ralph Grienger said he had some ideas he would like to run past me for the next Patrol Shoot. This was essentially the result of  what Ralph Had in mind. The  course of fire called for a six man squad divided into 3   two man    teams. A sniper team, a rifle and shotgun team, and a DM and rifleman   team. Teams starting on the Eastern most pistol pits were designated the Alpha  team, the  team in the Conex pits were the Bravo team and the Sniper team started at the top of the hill North of the club house. The teams cleared their respective areas of targets and  all three converged at a   central point down range of the clubhouse at about the 325 yard point.

 

This was a very complicated course of fire that required the teams to coordinate their movement with a control. Each team had   stop points that could not be gone past until the team had clearance  from the main control  point. The reason for this was that fires were being directed towards  the several teams as they conducted their movement. Our erstwhile artist, Bruce Bates did a masterful job of laying out the course of fire on the clubhouse white board. A picture of the course of fire can be seen in the attachment. Ralph’s drawing of the event that we worked from is also attached. BCRD stands for barricade or cover.

 

Once of the interesting aspects of this was that one portion of the team, say the Alpha team could have issues that  in a strict two-man competition would have eliminated them from  being competitive whereas in this event  it may or may not have had an impact at all. For example, Jon Koopman and I were the Alpha team which included the designated marksman and a rifleman. I was shooting an Armalite AR10 that decided to puke on me with about every third round jamming the gun. Part of the COF we were dealing with required coordinated fires from each person on the two man team and with me  constantly dealing with a jammed gun it slowed us down considerably. In spite of this, we reached our first stop point and still had to wait for the sniper two man team to  reach their safety point before we could proceed. As such our total team time was not adversely affected by my rifle issues. We subsequently reached our second stop control point just seconds after Bravo team reached their second stop point even though they had cleared to their first stop point much faster than we did.

 

Part of the Alpha COF required a series of plates to be taken out by each rifleman. One shooter would hit a center located target after which the second shooter would take out a plate. This process would repeat itself until all the plates on one side of the pit were cleared. The shooters would then switch roles clearing the other side I the same fashion.

 

I really wish someone would have taped Travis Gibson and Raul Garcia blaze through that portion of the event. It was rifle poetry in action. The first and follow-up shots were so quick you could hardly discern the difference  between shots. Very cool to watch.

 

Sniper targets were set up as   far away as seven hundred yards. For the experienced long range shooters it did not take long to clear those  targets. They then began moving towards the club house taking out a series of handgun targets, more rifle targets and finally holing up  behind the 300 meter berm while waiting for the two rifle teams to work towards them.

 

The Bravo team  had a series of rifle knock down plates in excess of 130 plates and about 50 clay pigeon targets to take out as   they advanced  thru their course of fire. It was set up a bit less complex than the Alpha  team targets however, if you have never shot that many clay pigeons with a shotgun in a timed event you will quickly learn that it is a process to keep that shotgun loaded and shooting.

 

Once Alpha and Bravo teams linked up  their were still another 125 plus steel plates  to be engaged with 4 of the new sniper plates needing to be engaged 4 times each by each rifleman.

 

I was reminded  how fast a twenty round magazine, loaded to 18  rounds go  empty. It is not a holly weird gun. Even 30 round AR mags go dry in a quick hurry.

 

Rocky and I appreciate everyone that helped set up on Friday. We could not do this without that kind of help. The tear down crew  which was just about everyone  was great as well. The event was taken down and put away in less than an hour.

 

This particular shoot is pretty unique. There are not many places in the country that offer this kind of opportunity. Running through a course of fire such as this tells you a lot about your skills, tactics, your weapon  your support gear or LBE and your ability to work with a partner and a team. Great fun, fun to shoot and fun to watch.

 NG



 

 

 

[zona5101]

Of course you know why Team Goodfellow came in first...it was the definitive, clear and precise way NG called for "time".

Fast forward to 10:15 and enjoy.
Parma Patrol Shoot 2011

[No-One]

Of course you know why Team Goodfellow came in first...it was the definitive, clear and precise way NG called for "time".

Just curious what the time penalty for standing out in the open after you run out of ammo and wait for your team mate to bring you more ammo might be . Unless of course there is some Tactical advantage that I am overlooking

[Scarecrow]

Never under estimate the advantage of a war-face.

[zona5101]

Just curious what the time penalty for standing out in the open after you run out of ammo and wait for your team mate to bring you more ammo might be . Unless of course there is some Tactical advantage that I am overlooking

yes, i think the team got a time deduction for excellence in ammo management by employing a ammo bearer...

[No-One]

yes, i think the team got a time deduction for excellence in ammo management by employing a ammo bearer...

And then they knocked another 10 seconds off for every F-Bomb the Bishop let off ??

[zona5101]

Ya, i think they covered that rule in the pre-match briefing! Even think it made it on the white-board next the penalty for missed steel...

[carharttfarmer]

f@#*   i should have paid more attetion  could have  just thought of a bad day at work and our time would have went negative:)