Topic: QuikClot at Cablela's

[luvmy45]

I don't know how long Cabela's has been carrying the QuikClot but I noticed they have the Sport Version of the QuikClot in 25g and 50g packages. I just picked up on of of the 50g for 14.99 to throw in my range bag/box with my 1st aid kit.

Suppose to be good for 3 years, not a bad idea to carry one or two with you... IMHO.

[ScotchBoy]

Definitely is good stuff to have.  Does anyone know if this is a pretty good price? 

Also, theres a first-aid/paramedic store over off Cole/Victory that carries a lot of first aid gear and Pelican stuff, everything you need to make a blow-out kit, but it was pretty spendy stuff if I remember correctly.

[Jeff]

I'll have some blow out kits soon.    I need to move the web site to a new hosting company and get the PMAG buy going.  Once those are done the gun shot trauma kits are next.  QuickClot isn't planned though unless it's the new stuff that doesn't cause the chemical burns.

[luvmy45]

Here's the one I got, http://www.z-medica.com/products/quikclot_sport.asp

It doesn't say anything about extreme temps, it does say it gets warm. This is a 5x5 sponge type applicator, not just the granules that you dump on.

Given my intended use is for gunshot wounds, I'm not terrible worried about a burn in the area, but if there's something better that easy to get, because I'm lazy, I'm all for it!

 

[NGO]

Quickclot will burn and it has to be removed once at hospital. My brother the DR. says not to use it unless you have no choice, most of the time simple pressure is all you will need.

He says that the stuff does burn and the area has to be sometimes scrubbed to get it off the wound. (Imagine being scrubbed ona burned open wound.  He tells about guys with a simple arrow wound that used it and during the cleaning the guy was crying and screming and begging him to stop. Told me a simple pressure pad would have been all that would have been needed. He has worked ER for a long time and seen a lot of stuff come in.

Their is better stuff on the market now a days.  Of course they cost more.

[luvmy45]

Is this the old quikclot stuff or the newer stuff they are using now?

At least according to their web site, the newer stuff is lower tempature.

Just curious if the original had some issues, and they have changed it, or it's the same old stuff.

Thanks,

[Spiff]

RG and I picked up some freebies at the Shot Show. Not sure if they are the new version or not.

[badgerdog]

They have those and quite a few first aid kits at "The Benchmark" on Vista. 

[codethree]

+1 on the comment about direct pressure. You would be amazed at the serious bleeds that can be controlled with just direct pressure. You can even control arterial bleeding with enough pressure. But of course there are situations where QuikClot would come on handy. In addition to combat, it might also be nice to have some if you are hunting or hiking in the middle of nowhere.

[NGO]

Direct pressure and elevation is best.

BUT if you think of using something else, which should be only as a last resort NOT something you grab first, except maybe Jeff since he is on blood thinners.

I have been told this is a better product CELOX,

http://www.bydezignproducts.com/celox.html

[luvmy45]

I've done some research on these things since I got the quikclot.

Things that I've discovered.

The original quikclot worked but did cause chemical burns, HOWEVER, the new formulation does not.

The original also came as granule's that you poured in the wound. The newer preferred method is a sponge type unit with the granules inside. It is easier to apply pressure with the quikclot contained in the sponge than the other way.

All of the negative's I've seen on quikclot have been addressed by the company and they have kept pace with the competition, including being the cheapest. Both the Celox and HemCon, which is suppose to be THE best stuff, is more expensive. The HemCon way more expensive.

Anyway... just my findings. Again for my intended purpose, which is emergency 1st aid when no one else is around, or just a couple of us, if the SHTF and a hole ended up in someone, I believe this would give me the ability to stop the bleeding, and get myself/them to real medical help.

Which if I'm out at the gun range by myself, could be a 30 minute drive, or at least a 5 minute drive to get in cell range to call for help.

[NGO]

Better yet, don't shot yourself. No such thing as an accident.

[luvmy45]

True, but how about a bad round, and the rifle blows up in your face, or I miss a squib round and jack another in behind it and shoot and the pistol blows up in my hand? Or a buddy loads the wrong caliber shell in his gun and trys to shoot it.

Or heaven forbid that I buy a glock and have one of the infamous blowups...

There are any number of accidents that could happen, out alone or with one other person, beyond cell range, that this could be useful for... not just an AD/ND.

Just food for thought...

[Lefty_OMorrow]

Better yet, don't buy a Glock. No such thing as an accident.

Fixed it for ya. 

Gonna have to get me some of this stuff.

[Norton1]

Imagine being scrubbed ona burned open wound.

BTDT - hurts like a son of a gun - I wasn't crying or screaming - but it did hurt. (not nearly as bad as a kidney stone) Road rash from a bike wreck is the same thing - hook nosed nylon bristle brush by an energetic ER nurse - Oh yeah. Only thing better is a rudabega cream pie with a soda cracker crust - yum yum yum - - -

[TrooperBrian]

Make sure it is QuikClot ACS, this is the newer version that does not have as much of an exothermic reaction. At that point I doubt you will care, but I don't suggest people just go packing this stuff around. Unless you are in the middle of a battlefield and more than an hour from ALS (Advanced Life Support), I would recommend that you DO NOT use this on any wound. If you do not know how to use it properly you can cause more harm that good.

Regardless, if you are still interested in keeping some, I can get the large packs for much cheaper than any store will have them for...

It's also a good idea to go shooting with me, I keep a trauma pack good for 10 people. 

[Jeff]

I'm (Sawtooth Tactical) is now a distributor for QuikClot and more.    If you need something let me know.  I won't have anything on the site until I get a blow out kit worked out.