Topic: Fish and game giving out bad info?

[technique]

Hey,

My Dad just got off the phone with Boise Fish and Game. They informed him it was illegal to hunt big game
with a rifle equipped with a silencer.

I have checked the regs. while ago and again just now.
As far as I know there is NO law barring hunting of any kind with a silencer.

Anyone hear differently?

Thanks!

[Grumblecakes]

ive never seen anything to the contrary. hell the only restriction ive seen is no rimfires or weapons weighing more that 16lbs.

[technique]

That and fullauto is all I could find...
I'm callin tomorrow and giving someone an ear full for sure!

[technique]

Just sent this Email off:

Hello,

My Dad called the Boise Fish and Game office today asking for information on the legality of hunting big game with a sound suppressor/silencer.

He was informed by one of your representatives that it was illegal. I believe this to be false information.
I cannot find any regulation barring the use of a sound suppressor/silencer in your rules/laws.

If there is in fact a law, can you please advise me of the penal code or specific rule against it?

Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,

Justin   

[Bill, Idaho]

Might be a Federal regulation.  I don't remember seeing in writing ever, though.

[technique]

Might be a Federal regulation.  I don't remember seeing in writing ever, though.

I don't think it is Federal. Over on Silencer talk they have a state by state listing of states allowing the use of suppressors for hunting, along with plenty others, Idaho is listed GTG!

[Nomad]

 Hunting with a silencer would be a good idea.....Saves your ears....

[luvmy45]

Just being nit picky here.. but can we please not refer to them as silencers... they are not, they are suppressors, especially when dealing with government entity's... it's bad enough that they mis-construe the purpose of our guns and ammo let's not give them any more fodder.

now back to the discussion, I would love to be able to hunt with my suppressor, let us know.

[agunforeachhand]

Just being nit picky here.. but can we please not refer to them as silencers... they are not, they are suppressors, especially when dealing with government entity's... it's bad enough that they mis-construe the purpose of our guns and ammo let's not give them any more fodder.

Sorry but who cares? Silencer, silencer , silencer Besides the government is going to fodder with our rights no matter what. IMO if you call it what they want you to call it you might as well just bend over BK

[technique]

Just being nit picky here.. but can we please not refer to them as silencers... they are not, they are suppressors, especially when dealing with government entity's... it's bad enough that they mis-construe the purpose of our guns and ammo let's not give them any more fodder.

now back to the discussion, I would love to be able to hunt with my suppressor, let us know.

Silencer is the only term recognized by the government. It's the only term used on their forms.

[WTF]

Silencer is the only term recognized by the government. It's the only term used on their forms.

that's what I have read as well, but, I do have one form that says "Suppressor" that flew by them. I pointed it out to the mfg (Gem State Arms) and he said he always submits that way, and sure as shit, it flew with the ATF, go figure.

[technique]

that's what I have read as well, but, I do have one form that says "Suppressor" that flew by them. I pointed it out to the mfg (Gem State Arms) and he said he always submits that way, and sure as shit, it flew with the ATF, go figure.

Huh, mine all say Silencer. Also in the "terms" section on the form, it says "Muffler or Silencer".

In any case, Hiram Percy Maxim invented and patented a design called a silencer in 1909. It was the he called it a silencer and patented as such.
Silencer is a correct word and just as valid as any other.

[Joey]

Huh, mine all say Silencer. Also in the "terms" section on the form, it says "Muffler or Silencer".

In any case, Hiram Percy Maxim invented and patented a design called a silencer in 1909. It was the he called it a silencer and patented as such.
Silencer is a correct word and just as valid as any other.

You are all correct.
Silencer, Suppressor, Muffler, Sound Moderator, They all work and are used in the NFA Guidebook.
Which all 75 pages, can be downloaded here:
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/nfa-handbook/

It's actually a pretty good read, It is the letter of the Law on Class 3 items.
Keep posted for the response from Idaho Fish & Game?
Now please Back on Topic ;-)

[agunforeachhand]

You are all correct.
Silencer, Suppressor, Muffler, Sound Moderator, They all work and are used in the NFA Guidebook.
Which all 75 pages, can be downloaded here:
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/nfa-handbook/

It's actually a pretty good read, It is the letter of the Law on Class 3 items.
Keep posted for the response from Idaho Fish & Game?
Now please Back on Topic ;-)

So everyone but BK (luvmy45) right? 

[technique]

Reply from Fish and Game:

I am unaware of a title 36 or Commission prohibition against the use of a
suppressor for the taking of big game. Obviously ATF regulations may limit the
use and possession of such.


IDAPA 13.01.08.401.01.d prohibits hunting big game with a fully automatic
weapon. I am not aware of any prohibition against the use of a suppressor.

[Joey]

That's what I got as well 

I am unaware of a title 36 or Commission prohibition against the use of a suppressor for the taking of big game. Obviously ATF regulations may limit the use and possession of such.

IDAPA 13.01.08.401.01.d prohibits hunting big game with a fully automatic weapon, but we are not aware of any prohibition against the use of a suppressor.

I'm sorry about the confusion,

idfginfo

-----Original Message-----
From: jharris@gem-tech.com [mailto:jharris@gem-tech.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:32 AM
To: IDFGINFO
Subject: Using Silencers to hunt Big game in Idaho?

This message was sent from the IDFG website.

I work for a silencer company here in Idaho.
One of my customers called to tell me someone from the customer service line @ Fish & Game, told him it's illegal to hunt big game in Idaho with a suppressor/silencer?
I want to confirm that this is NOT TRUE?
Silencers are not listed as an Item you can not use, it only lists Machine Guns and rifles over 16lbs.

Can you please clarify this?
If it is in fact illegal to hunt big game in Idaho with a silencer, please list where I can find that in the Regulations?


Thank you for your time.

Joey Harris
Gemtech Suppressors
208-939-7222

[technique]

DFG got owned! 

[J Mack]

Reply from Fish and Game:
I am unaware of a title 36 or Commission prohibition against the use of a
suppressor for the taking of big game. Obviously ATF regulations may limit the
use and possession of such.


IDAPA 13.01.08.401.01.d prohibits hunting big game with a fully automatic
weapon. I am not aware of any prohibition against the use of a suppressor.

Thanks for the post technique, 430 yards and the little guy never heard it coming

[luckypunk]

Thanks for the post technique, 430 yards and the little guy never heard it coming

they never do

430yds? can we get an AAR?