Author Topic: Gen 4 Glock 19 + TLR light = unintentional slide release (Read 987 times)

9Shooter · « **on:** October 13, 2010, 11:30:09 AM »

This doesn't look good. I wonder if it's due to the rail getting pinched by the light mount. If that's the case, any rail mounted accessory may cause this failure.

Glock TLR-1 Failure

G19 Failure Requests

Queue all the Glock haters in 3... 2... 1...

Mascampo · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:27:15 PM »

I have not had any problems with my Viridian GLK or Glock Light with my Gen3 30sf or Gen4 17.

Nomad · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:56:03 PM »

In our dept we have had no problems.
Before we installed lights on our pistols we contacted Glock
their response was use the 11 coil springs in your Glocks end of story.
We did use the choices of lights that they said that would work..........

J Mack · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2010, 04:40:13 PM »

Quote from: 9Shooter on October 13, 2010, 11:30:09 AM

Queue all the Glock haters in 3... 2... 1...

This could be a safety feature, a disabled Glock is a safe Glock!

...... I kill me...!!!!

e11charlie · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2010, 04:47:12 PM »

I found the problem. If you look hard enough at the video you will notice that it is a Glock, hence the problem.

Valhalla · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2010, 05:13:47 PM »

Quote from: e11charlie on October 13, 2010, 04:47:12 PM

I found the problem. If you look hard enough at the video you will notice that it is a Glock, hence the problem.

LOL. I imagine that if you were to use a dremel and remove the part of the slide that says "Glock" it would resolve the issue.

TrooperBrian · « **Reply #6 on:** October 13, 2010, 05:59:06 PM »

He also holds it at a different angle when he runs the demo with the light on and off. Maybe a faulty spring?

RGinIdaho · « **Reply #7 on:** October 13, 2010, 06:06:53 PM »

Quote from: TrooperBrian on October 13, 2010, 05:59:06 PM

Maybe a faulty spring?

A faulty spring in a Glock

Say it isn't so.

9Shooter · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2010, 06:56:31 PM »

Ah, I knew this would spawn some creative plastic jokes

Quote from: Mascampo on October 13, 2010, 01:27:15 PM

I have not had any problems with my Viridian GLK or Glock Light with my Gen3 30sf or Gen4 17.

Interesting. I was wondering about how my gen 3 G19 would fare. It would be curious if it was just the combination of a gen 4 19 and the TLR. Still, the fact that it happens at all kinda sucks. Searching around for some kind of confirmation, I also found issues with FTF when the light is attached.

RGinIdaho · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2010, 07:08:07 PM »

Quote from: 9Shooter on October 13, 2010, 06:56:31 PM

Ah, I knew this would spawn some creative plastic jokes

Interesting. I was wondering about how my gen 3 G19 would fare. It would be curious if it was just the combination of a gen 4 19 and the TLR. Still, the fact that it happens at all kinda sucks. Searching around for some kind of confirmation, I also found issues with FTF when the light is attached.

The FTF with a light has been a known issue with the fullsize .40 models. Pat Rogers had a write up about it at one time. Nomad's 11 coil spring recomendation from Glock may be the final resolution to that one.

Jeff · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2010, 07:10:37 PM »

JollyRoger did a lot of testing with the 19 and 23. We never had any issues with a Gen 2 or Gen 3 19. The 23 failed. A lot. He sold his 23 partly because of this.

luvmy45 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2010, 07:21:58 PM »

Glocks do not like the light and are evil creatures of darkness, 1911's like the light and are a gift from God.

End of story... next!

agunforeachhand · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2010, 07:32:29 PM »

Quote from: Jeff on October 13, 2010, 07:10:37 PM

JollyRoger did a lot of testing with the 19 and 23. We never had any issues with a Gen 2 or Gen 3 19. The 23 failed. A lot. He sold his 23 partly because of this.

What kind of failure Jeff?

RGinIdaho · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2010, 09:16:55 PM »

Quote from: agunforeachhand on October 13, 2010, 07:32:29 PM

What kind of failure Jeff?

I watched him throw it into the back of the truck one day. Glock reliability...

Jeff · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2010, 09:43:28 PM »

Failure to feed with the TLR-1 on the rail. Without the light on it was reasonably reliable.

Scarecrow · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:44:21 PM »

Quote from: luvmy45 on October 13, 2010, 07:21:58 PM

Glocks do not like the light and are evil creatures of darkness, 1911's like the light and are a gift from God.

If John Browning wanted a light mounted on a 1911, he would have invented high output LED bulbs, cr123 batteries and the picatinny rail with which to mount them.

luvmy45 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:00:15 PM »

Don't like rail mounted lights myself, and don't have any rails on my beloveds...

But, 1911 with rails, they work just fine, I guess that's what you get with a STEEL frame instead of tupperware frame.

Speaking of which, does anyone have an extra tupperware bowl that their g-lock came, I need something to keep the carrots crisp in the fridge.

Thanks,

Mascampo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 14, 2010, 09:17:54 AM »

Quote from: luvmy45 on October 13, 2010, 11:00:15 PM

Don't like rail mounted lights myself, and don't have any rails on my beloveds...

But, 1911 with rails, they work just fine, I guess that's what you get with a STEEL frame instead of tupperware frame.

Speaking of which, does anyone have an extra tupperware bowl that their g-lock came, I need something to keep the carrots crisp in the fridge.

Thanks,

Haha! Good one Luvmy45, a total knee slapper. I have not had any problems with my Glocks. I am hoping someday to get a 1911, just for coolness sake so I can be just like you. :-p

Joey · « **Reply #18 on:** October 14, 2010, 10:01:33 AM »

Quote from: 9Shooter on October 13, 2010, 11:30:09 AM

Queue all the Glock haters in 3... 2... 1...

In 20 plus years of shooting, and half of that instructing.

I've not seen one type of pistol NOT FAIL, at one point or another.

Just sayin

agunforeachhand · « **Reply #19 on:** October 14, 2010, 12:36:29 PM »

Quote from: Joey on October 14, 2010, 10:01:33 AM

In 20 plus years of shooting, and half of that instructing.

I've not seen one type of pistol NOT FAIL, at one point or another.

Just sayin

+1 Joey

luvmy45 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 14, 2010, 01:46:07 PM »

I'm not saying my 1911 hasn't failed... I'm just trying to remember when it did and it wasn't my fault.

agunforeachhand · « **Reply #21 on:** October 14, 2010, 02:57:17 PM »

Quote from: luvmy45 on October 14, 2010, 01:46:07 PM

I'm not saying my 1911 hasn't failed... I'm just trying to remember when it did and it wasn't my fault.

Hey jaimiemc STFU

I had a springfield armory commander 1911 that failed all the time. I know it isn't one of your $2000 1911's BK but the point is it was a 1911 and it ate shit. Joey was right, in all of my shooting I have seen pleanty of guns including 1911's fail and they didn't have lights on them at all.

Maybe we should just move this thread to the Rant's , a glock Rant thread for all of you old fogie's

luvmy45 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2010, 03:48:40 PM »

1911's take personal attention and love and care... ie.. you have to own one for more than 2 weeks.

Move the thread to rants? What? I'm liking the Glock Fail theme... and I didn't start it.

Scarecrow · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2010, 09:33:40 PM »

The full length dust cover TRP's looked very, very cool.

popsgunner · « **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2010, 08:25:17 AM »

and thats why I am here, when they fail and when they need some love and care. All guns need attention, price doesn't matter, I have seen the light fail deal on the Glocks and have fixed them. Gotta say +1 BK on the carry what you have and shoot what you carry....ALOT, again suck it up buttercups, buy ammo, learn how to deal with your specific gun, don't just take it when it fails once or twice, deal with it, get out and shoot, go to matches, come in last so the F...what ? having them doesn't make you a gun person, gotta know them and use them. Glock has made several changes to combat these problems and others.